danielford99 Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi, Having set up a website and set up the PayPal payment buttons etc. I am now having second thoughts about which to use PayPal or osCommerc. I have had a look at the list of companies who have used osCommerce and their website all look pretty similar (shopping cart in the top-right corner etc) which suggests that it could be fairly simple to implement in to an existing site? I have only heard of osCommerce in the last couple of days and am looking for advice regarding its use etc? Can I test the software before I allow it to go live? Is it easy to customerise & implement? Thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkedam Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi,Can I test the software before I allow it to go live? Is it easy to customerise & implement? 1. yes 2. depends on your actual skills and your learning curve "If you're working on something new, then you are necessarily an amateur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 15, 2004 Author Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi, Thanks for that. I pretty much know everthing there is to know when it comes to HTML but the SQL and PHP stuff is like a foreign language. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkedam Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi, Thanks for that. I pretty much know everthing there is to know when it comes to HTML but the SQL and PHP stuff is like a foreign language. Dan install osco (free download choose the 2.2-MS2 version) on yr own PC and start playing "If you're working on something new, then you are necessarily an amateur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 15, 2004 Author Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi, How do I install? Found the install folder after I unzipped the file but there are no .exe files etc?? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkedam Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 http://localhost/catalog/install/index.php > enter and http://wiki.oscommerce.com/docs "If you're working on something new, then you are necessarily an amateur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 15, 2004 Author Share Posted March 15, 2004 Hi, Thanks for that. Printed off the instruction manual. Can anyone else help? My original message: Hi, Having set up a website and set up the PayPal payment buttons etc. I am now having second thoughts about which to use PayPal or osCommerc. I have had a look at the list of companies who have used osCommerce and their website all look pretty similar (shopping cart in the top-right corner etc) which suggests that it could be fairly simple to implement in to an existing site? I have only heard of osCommerce in the last couple of days and am looking for advice regarding its use etc? Can I test the software before I allow it to go live? Is it easy to customerise & implement? Thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkedam Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 which part of my postings did you not understand or which question did I not answer? BTW paypal is a pay-system and oscommerce is a shopsystem. does that answer a remaining question? "If you're working on something new, then you are necessarily an amateur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spayce_girl Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 osCommerce is very easy to implement but that is coming from someone what has worked in PHP and mySql for a little bit. If you do not have this background the straighforward instructions may seem like a foreign language. But the good news is that PHP is also easy to learn. The basics is all you will need just so you have a working knowledge of what your dealing with. If you ultimately decide to hire out it will help you know what to ask for. Check out the links below: Php.net MySql.com Having an understanding with FTP (File Transfer Protocol) programs will help you tremendously because to complete the initial installation that is all you will need to know. Your host should have an FTP application available for you that you use to upload docs via a web browser. Anyway, once you have it installed, which will only take a few minutes depending on your knowledge of FTP, you will be able to test the application. Sample data is provided for testing. I would say installation and initial testing is the easy part. Your next task will be customizing the store so it doesn't look like every other oscommerce store out there. If you are doing it yourself, this is where your familiarity with PHP will come in handy. There are great add ons or contributions that available on this site that will help you. The sample stores provided on the oscommerce site has some good examples of good layouts too. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 16, 2004 Author Share Posted March 16, 2004 Hi, Thanks for your responses. I am still confused regarding berkedam's last comment 'paypal is a pay-system and oscommerce is a shopsystem' - think I have got myself seriously confused. Does osCommerce not allow online payments? if it is only used for shopping cart and not online payment this would save me a lot of time! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkedam Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Hi, Thanks for your responses. I am still confused regarding berkedam's last comment 'paypal is a pay-system and oscommerce is a shopsystem' - think I have got myself seriously confused. Does osCommerce not allow online payments? if it is only used for shopping cart and not online payment this would save me a lot of time! Dan oscommerce and pay-systems go very well together. less confused now? "If you're working on something new, then you are necessarily an amateur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousperson Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 OScommerce is a shopping cart and can be used to sell goods. Paypal will be used simply to pay the seller for these goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 oscommerce is an online shopping cart where you add products etc. paypal is the way the payment method is handled. Paypal is not a shopping cart to display your products and browse your shop site. once you have set up oscommerce added your products, you may look into paypal to handle how your credit card payments are handled. I hop this explains it. look at http://www.paypal.com/uk/ to view how paypal works for the credit card payment methods. I think looking at other people shopping carts will help you, if look round this oscommerce site you will see other sites people have built using oscommerce. it is fairly easy to use and you really don't need to know much sql to set up ths shop cart, and you really don't need to touch the PHP, only if you go into making your shop cart look unique. CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbreit Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 The PayPal Shopping Cart and osCommerce are really not comparable. With the PayPal Shopping Cart you simply insert "Add to Cart" buttons in static HTML web pages. osCommerce is a complete online store management system. You load all of your products into the database, osC generates your entire store, manages the checkout process with robust tax and shipping calculations and provides a robust order management system. osC has a lot of other built-in features and a wealth of indpendently developed contributions. Patrick Breitenbach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detsouvalas Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Let's see .... PHP is executed on the server side and then it sends HTML to the browser ... do you have a web server with PHP and MySQL to install and test osCommerce? If not and if you are working with a Windows environment, download for free EasyPHP at http://www.easyphp.org/. By installing the package, you get the Apache Web-Server with PHP, MySql and PhpMyAdmin for local use. Then follow the installation instructions of osCommerce! Easy, no?? ;) Antonios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 17, 2004 Author Share Posted March 17, 2004 Thanks for all your replies!. I have got my head around it all now! feel a bit stupid that I got PayPal and osCommerce confused. My only problem now is that I have a website that has took me 2 months to build and I do not want to mess it up. Installing osCommerce is only going to affect my sites layout etc? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkedam Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 oscommerce is standard installed in the /catalog directory. if you already have a directory called /catalog, just choose another name for the osco install. beware that your ISP must have enabled that you can use a MySQL database "If you're working on something new, then you are necessarily an amateur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogidegr8 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Hello, Very interesting discussion going on. My input on your original(first) mail. If you compare OSC site with your original site with "Paypal,s add to cart" button then the OSC site is way too better then that. There are lot many more featurs in OSC. The advantages in OSC site are: * You will find it very very easy to add new products to OSC.( You do not have to make new pages, you just have to enter the details and photo and the pages will be generated autometically) * There are customer log-ins and the customers get lot of static of your site and product. they can track theire orders they can re order what they have ordered previously and directly see what are the new products from their last login...... And many many more. * You can do any chainges in the products very easily. YOu can update the currency rates, you can give multipal currency options, language options. *YOu can mentain your stocks online autometically. Like this there are many advantages of OSC.. :) Regarding learning PHP and installing and support.. Just stick to this forum and you'll learn everything sooner or later...:) Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 17, 2004 Author Share Posted March 17, 2004 Hi, It does sound really good but complicated. I was hoping to let my site go live early april, but if I was to implement osCommerce I don't think it would be possible. Have a look at a test page from my site - http://uk.geocities.com/ncfeint2004 Can any one tell me how easy it would be to implement osCommerce in to my current design. Thanks again, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detsouvalas Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 You may have to give up frames, or at least part of them! If you add a template system to oscommerce, I think that you will be able to easely adapt the look of your shop! Two weeks are plenty of time to work on your new shop! Antonios Antonios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousperson Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 If you need anywhere to host it, I know a company who can do it for you at a good rate - that's who i use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 I think you need a better look than what is on your Geocities page. I would never buy from a site that looked like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simaster99 Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 I can email you my live shop details, you can play, have a fiddle, if you like. I am happy for you to do this, because, with only a few hours tweeking about my shop was up and running. And if i get board, i go to the contributions page, and download a modual or two. If it goes wrong, relly on the last backup, if you dont keep backups then your asking for it! Simon, not great with PHP, MYSql! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 18, 2004 Author Share Posted March 18, 2004 Hi, Can I ask Burton why you would never buy from a site like mine? Compared to most memorabilia shops (www.memorabilia-store.com) I think it looks a lot better. It doesn't take long to load (most annoying thing about the web) & it is easy to navigate. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielford99 Posted March 18, 2004 Author Share Posted March 18, 2004 Hi, Thanks for your support and offer of hosting. I have actually paid for hosting and am just about ready to upload my site (april launch). Came across osCommerce by mistake and was taken back a little. I haven't a clue with PHP and MySQL. I can just about use DreamWeaver!. It has took me 2 months to develop my site and that why I am quite apprehensive with regards to using osCommerce. It will definitely affect my layout etc and I don't think I will have a clue how to install and begin to use. Thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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