-=neo=- Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi OsComm users, Please take the time to review my site www.boataholic.com and let me know what you think. It is now 100% live so no test orders. This has been an huge learning experience and I'm glad I've been able to help and meet some of you. Over 4500 items entered by me so any help with easypopulate send em my way. :P Thanks, Max The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=neo=- Posted January 26, 2004 Author Share Posted January 26, 2004 Thanks Bear ;) The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Your site has so many errors in Mozilla based browsers that I can't take enough screenshots to show you them all. 1.Your DHTML menu is misaligned. 2. Your header graphics are misaligned 3. Most of your boxes do not even show up 4. Font tags are incomplete in some boxes leading to default text style I am sure there are more, but navigation was difficult with your pages in the shape they are. Mozilla based browsers are the major alternative to IE. Any developer that does not check their work in a mozilla based browser is asking for trouble. You really, REALLY need to download a copy at http://www.mozilla.org and check your pages- its free. Mozilla, Firebird, Netscape, and some versions of AOL software all use Mozilla based browsers. That is a huge share of internet users. My advice comes in two flavors- Pick the one that won't offend you. Hard and Cynical: How to Make a Horrible osCommerce Site Warm and Fuzzy: How to Make an Awesome osCommerce Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 And I have to scroll right to see your whole site at 1280x1024 resolution. Thats a bad one, but probably due to bad positioning of your footer (the mozilla thing again). My advice comes in two flavors- Pick the one that won't offend you. Hard and Cynical: How to Make a Horrible osCommerce Site Warm and Fuzzy: How to Make an Awesome osCommerce Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=neo=- Posted January 26, 2004 Author Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hey Chance, No doubt. Thanks, I've never seen it in Mozilla. I'm a newbie and this is my first site. Do you care to give me some advice on how to fix it. I honestly don't have a clue. Thanks, Max The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I think alot of your problem might stem from what editor you are using to make your pages. I can tell you are using a visual editor to make your html- its very aparent in this block on your index page: <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> Are you using Word to edit HTML/PHP? For instance, you have 4 or 5 <style> tags in a row. This is caused by poorly designed visual editors who don't have solid stylesheet support. This is also probably causing your text issues in mozilla browsers as they are a much more literal translator of code than IE, and mozilla does not get along with multiple instances of the same thing very well (because its not standard). You are using bordercolors. Bordercolors are an IE thing- not supported by mozilla because they are not in the 4.blahblah HTML spec. You have to understand, because microsoft dominates the browser industry, they do alot of non-standard things because, well, they can. My advice comes in two flavors- Pick the one that won't offend you. Hard and Cynical: How to Make a Horrible osCommerce Site Warm and Fuzzy: How to Make an Awesome osCommerce Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=neo=- Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 Cool thanks for the comeback, I'm gonna work on it today. I looked at my webstats today and not many people are using mozilla but you're right. That big sale could be lost because I didnt ensure browser compatablility. Thanks again, I may have a few more ?s for you later ;) Max PS yes I'm using word/notepad what do you recommend? The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Mods, I am just listing these editors because Neo asked. I have no affiliation with them other than I have tried them all out. Purpose built HTML editors range from free to hundreds of dollars. If you want nifty stuff like preview panes, SQL integration, and all the bells and whistles then of course you are going to pay lots more. I will list a couple covering the price range below. Free: Firstpage http://evrsoft.com/ This editor is free for personal AND commercial use. Its a work in development (slow development) from what looks like a couple of college kids. The thing is, it works well, seems to be pretty standards compliant, and has a few of the expensive features of the big boys. It has different panel sets for you level of experence (novice, with pictures through expert, with tag names) and you really can't beat the price- Free. Cheap: UltraEdit http://www.ultraedit.com I think this one is about $35 bucks, has syntax highlighting, integrated FTP, and a couple more what I like to call "expert" features. However, I don't think this one has a preview pane, or a visual editor. I have played with this one for about 10 minutes, a good friend of mine uses it all day every day and loves it. Of course, he is a purist and wouldn't be caught dead editing some text in a visual editor on principal. Expensive: Macromedia and Adobe products Studio MX / Dreamweaver MX 2004 http://www.macromedia.com Adobe Creative Suite / PageMaker http://www.adobe.com I have not used adobe products aside from making bad images for a photoshop contest or two. I can't really speak for them, but I thought I would throw them in so you could take a look. I use Dreamweaver MX 2004. Its expensive- about $400. It has alot of nice features, including their livedata connections to your online SQL database, integrated visual and text editors that don't butcher code, integrated FTP and link checking, and about a million other options. I love it. However, it is VERY expensive as text editors go. If you are going to use all the extra crap it comes with, then it might be worth it to you. These are just a couple that come to mind. There are probably a couple hundred other editors out there, so please don't think this is an all inclusive list. I just wanted to throw up a couple that I have had experence with. Other members, please feel free to throw in anything you think I have missed or you think is better. All the editors listed here have free trial downloads for a month or so. Try them all out, see what you like best. If I was going to recomend one to you, based on my personal experence, then I would say give Firstpage a try. You have to edit the code, but then you have the preview pane where you can see your changes in real time. That free thing is really attractive too. I am no web expert though- I am just an "experenced newbie" slowly learning everything like you. I use Dreamweaver becuase to me it has a good mix of helpful features and "hardcore" editing to make my job easier. I can tell you one thing though, and I am sure anyone on these boards will agree with me- don't use Word to edit html/php. My advice comes in two flavors- Pick the one that won't offend you. Hard and Cynical: How to Make a Horrible osCommerce Site Warm and Fuzzy: How to Make an Awesome osCommerce Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=neo=- Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 Thanks again Chance, I appreciate the help I'm going to try a few different editors. Max The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 can i ask what contribution you used to get the catagories menu like that? i think it's great and am looking for something like that too. oh and you can download a 30 day trial from macromedia of the dreamweaver, fireworks... suite of programmes. i use them and find them fairly user friendly, it's also easy to upload your whole site and test on your testing server for dynamic pages. i used easy populate on my site and found it fairly easy to use, uploaded no probs. main piece of advice is look at the table headers and make sure the file you upload has exactly the same column headers, and that you don't use the end of column symbol within a column, i just bunged it in excel and saved as tab delimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=neo=- Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 Hey Fazer, http://www.oscommerce.com/community/contributions,1033 Cool menu contrib. I agree save them first as tab delimeted then open them up under excel. Any Carriage returns will show up as an error. Also the prices must be in general format or the price will come out wrong. Max The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=neo=- Posted August 7, 2004 Author Share Posted August 7, 2004 OK, I redesigned for Mozilla and Netscape... What a chore... But I have one more problem and it looks like it may be a simple fix. So the question is why does my background show up in blue in Mozilla and white in IE and Netscape. Just for you noobs like me don't design in Frontpage. You will end up redesigning in order for your site to look good in Mozilla and Netscape. -=neo=- The problem with winning the rat race is at the end you're still a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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