Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I am new to web site making. I only know some HTML. Currently, my site kind of sucks. http://www.airsoft21.com I found OS Commerce and thought i would try it out. I really have no idea how to get started. I downloaded one of the US packages. Do i have to learn PHP to be able to use OS commerce? Also, what is the cost of OS Commerce? Any help is appreciated thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Welcome! Here's a list of things you need to know: 1.) OScommerce is free, for now. 2.) You don't need to know PHP programming, but it would obviously be helpful for fixing all the bugs with this package. 3.) Make sure you downloaded the Milestone 2.2 and not one of the others, b/c those aren't going to guaranteed stable. 4.) When you unzip the downloaded Milestone 2.2 and go to install it, make sure you set up the directories as you want them: i.e. do you really want admin/admin? You could just put it in public_html/admin instead and public_html/catalog. That way, you don't have to type in www.yoursite.com/admin/admin or www.yoursite.com/catalog/catalog. Need anymore info, just ask, I'll try to help you since I know what it's like not having people around here help. lol :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hey! Thanks for the quick reply! OK, i downloaded the Phoenix Version of the 2.2 version. I then, unzipped it, then went to the folder of which i unzipped. I clicked install, and then something came up saying: Please Choose Approiate Program to Install, or have the Web find what is most approiate. What do i do now?? Thanks so much for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Doh. That's very far off what you're supposed to do. Hehe. Some things that are VITAL are that you MUST first create a database in MySQL before doing the installation online. The way to do this is login to CPANEL (I'm assuming you have CPANEL?) on your website, then go to My Databases/MySQL Databases, then click on "Add Database" after you name it on the line provided. Then add a user. That's all you have to do to create a MySQL database. 1.) Unzip the file to a directory on your computer. 2.) Now you must go to your WEBSITE either through standard FTP or a CPANEL file manager, and upload that "catalog/admin" folder from your computer to the website directory's public_html or www folder. 3.) AFTER you upload that folder to your website's main public_html directory, you must type in the following URL in your browser: www.yoursite.com/catalog/ This assumes you haven't changed the directory structure after the unzipping back at step 1. 4.) Anyway, after you type in the above URL and go to that site, it will all be very easy with a nice graphical user interface taking you step by step through the installation for your website. 5.) You'll have to type in stuff like the name of the database (you should have done this one first above, remember?) and your username and password, and the location of the server (usually just "localhost"). Need antyhing else just ask. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 WOW! I am way off. I don't even know what CPanel is. How do i get it on my website? I feel like an idiot. Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I do have a FTP though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Ooo boy...that's not good. :blink: You need to have an administration panel and mysql database capabilities. Who is your host? I hope you're not trying to do this on a regular AOL or some such personal website, because it just isn't going to work, I can tell you that right now. Sorry. Need more info! Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I figured it out, i am now going to try and set it up! All i had to do was upgrade my plan from basic to standard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 OK, I am in My Database. I named it OSCommerce. I can not figure out how to upload the Admin file though. How do i do it all at once? When i try, it just keeps opening up the folder, instead of uploading all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hi, This will help: http://wiki.oscommerce.com/docs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutchison Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 1.) OScommerce is free, for now. Considering that OSCommerce is released under the GPL, I am not sure I understand this comment. Is this just natural conservitism about the non-eternal nature of all things, or is there some plan? My understanding of the GPL leads me to believe that OScommerce will remain free. Just looking for clarification, Thanks! Hutch, OScommerce Newbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 The only problem is, that makes no sense to me what so ever. Someone please help! Here is everything you might need to know to help me: I am using Yahoo! Small Buisness Standard Edition for my Server I have logged in a created my database in MY SQL! I went to www.airsoft21.com/directory and created my database called OSCommerce I have a FTP in my filemanager that I can upload things too, but i cant figure out how to upload the whole admin and extra thing. Anything else you need to to know to help me? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hello, From the sound of things, I'm gonna take a step backwards here and help make sure you have what you need. OSCommerce needs to run on a computer using a web server which is capable of handling PHP versions 3 or 4 because that's the language it is written in - although PHP3 is going by the wayside. It will not run on a "standard" computer without this software. Fortunately, nowadays most webhosts are set up to hanndle the software. However, that means you must upload the unzipped package via FTP and then do all of your develpement on a live site, which is not recommended. By that I mean that there are several changes (the bugs he/she mentioned) which must be fixed, as this is a program under developement and, while it is a most excellent e-commerce program, it is not quite yet perfect. There are there are many sloutions in this forum which have already been addressed and the answers are there as well as people who can help you, so do not be daunted. Also there are several changes you will personally want to make, such as customizing the appearance of your site like adding your own logo, etc. So, it would be good for you to learn PHP but that can come with time. For now simply follow the helpful suggestions and solutions found in this form. It is much better if you can work on developing your own site if you do not have to work on it live because you must make changes one at a time and upload them just to see if they work, so, it is better if you can do that on your own machine and upload the entire customized site when you are ready. To do this you must have installed on your computer a web server, the PHP language, a database, and a database management program to facilitate using the database - the same things your live web server has. Fortunately there are some very helpful people out there who, for us common folk, have taken the pain out of establishing all of these software packages on computers and making them work together. There are actually downloadable packages which you can install on your system which work really well. I use a package for win32 computers (Windows) called 'phpdev423' found at http://www.firepages.com.au/ download file => phpdev423 (upgrade at last) [21-10-2002] It contains the Apache webserver, PHP 4, the MYSQL database, and phpmyadmin which is a database management program. These programs can all be found at their individual sites but, trust me, use a package that someone has already integrated unless you are well versed in all of these. This particular package also includes a couple of other helpful applications you can incorporate into your site, such as an FTP program (which you already have) and the Invision forum you are experiencing here. Cpanel is another database management program like phpmyadmin but I do not know where to get it or if it is included in any packages. If you have a MAC I am sure there are packages for that too but I don't know where they are. However, I am sure someone on this forum can tell you. That's enough to get you started. Keep asking questions if you have them Charles We stand in ignorance only for questions not asked. Plug up the leaks in your knowledge base and open up a flood of understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 In addition, I would advise you to get a program like FileZilla for uploading large numbers of files and directories at once--relying on the IE x.x FTP is playing with Russian Roulette. Hehe. You can snag FileZilla HERE for free. As far as my comment about OSCommerce being "free for now" I'm just stating a business truism--nothing's free forever. All you have to do is look at things like PerlDesk and the rest which start as free projects and morph into a greater, commercial whole. If you need anymore help just ask AirSoft. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I use CuteFTP which is pretty good and very user friendly, but it costs (however, I am still in the free demo periiod). I would NOT use the FTP included in phpdev423 - I can't make heads or tails of it. Jon, do you have any comparative experience between CuteFTPanfd FileZilla? Charles We stand in ignorance only for questions not asked. Plug up the leaks in your knowledge base and open up a flood of understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Yes, I used to use CuteFTP for "many moons," hehe, and I must say, since being turned onto FileZilla by a fellow member over at Anandtech, I prefer FileZilla. Just my Op of course, but I find it to be very "smooth" and intuitive, and quite powerful actually. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Cool, I think my 'trial period' is about to expire. hehe Charles We stand in ignorance only for questions not asked. Plug up the leaks in your knowledge base and open up a flood of understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Cool, I think my 'trial period' is about to expire. hehe Charles lol :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hey, thanks so much for everyones help. I have now downloaded phpdev423 and filezilla. I can access the phpdev423 from my start menu. What do i do next with it? For filezilla, do i just connect to my website via port number and host? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 OK, i tried to connect to filezilla by entering in this info in the quick connect bar: Address: filetransfer.msg.yahoo.com User: My User name Password: My password Port: 80 I do get a connection, but then it says: Connect Wait for Welcome message, but i never get a welcome message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Is that the FTP info that Yahoo gave you? Try just putting in your site's name as www.mysite.com, don't put a port number, and put in your username and password. I can't say how long it should take with a Yahoo hosted account, but it shouldn't just hang there. Hehe. :blink: I've got to go pick my cousin up at the airport, so when I get back later I'll try to help some more if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I tried that, I got connected, and them got the "Wait for Welcome Message". The info i gave you before was info i got from their help site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
241 Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 This is what info I got from yahoo Address: ftp.domain-name.com User Name: Yahoo! [email protected] Password: Yahoo! ID password then try the standard port 21 instead of 80 obviously substitute domain-name.com for your domain-name etc. If you have just set up this account it may not be active yet. No longer giving free advice. Please place deposit in meter slot provided. Individual: [=] SME: [==] Corporation: [===] If deposit does not fit one of the slots provided then you are asking too much! Is your Osc dated try Phoenix raising oscommerce from the ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 ^^^^^What 241 said. Also, don't put the port number in FileZilla, let it use defaults. If that doesn't work, then start specifying connection points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hey! That worked! Thanks guys, I am now going to try and upload the data to my site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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