HTML oscommerce!

thuyvu · July 28, 2003

Hi Everyone,

I am just surfing the net today and I found out that Oscommerce could be in HTML format. Instead of *.php ...I saw a site containing all web pages in *.HTML format. the site is http://www.unitedplus.com

how does this work?

8) :lol: :o :( :) :D :shock: :x :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink: :arrow: :idea: :?: :!:

burt · July 28, 2003

AddType application/x-httpd-php .html

in your htaccess file if the host allows it. It *might* work that way.

If you are your own host edit httpd.conf.

It's pretty pointless though isn't it? Why do you feel it would be worth doing?

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

That's my site!!! I check log today and see people came from here. lol

here the mod that will do just that. http://www.oscommerce.com/community/contributions,1332

why does it worth?

well, many search engines only list or crawl unique pages and not anything after ? (queries) such as

product_info.php?cPath=330_359&products_id=1587

product_info.php?cPath=330_359&products_id=2714

product_info.php?cPath=330_359&products_id=3172

all these 3 pages would be listed as product_info.php and show up in search engines only 1 listing

say if you have pages as unique pages like http://www.unitedplus.com/category526_494/...oduct_info.html

http://www.unitedplus.com/category526_494/...oduct_info.html

this will show up 3 listings

and imagine you have over 2000 of unique pages, you would be listed more and search engines would enjoy their food. Then your site would be seen more. Then you would get more orders.

Like that? :D :D

July 30, 2003

and imagine you have over 2000 of unique pages, you would be listed more and search engines would enjoy their food. Then your site would be seen more. Then you would get more orders.

Like that? :D :D

And here I have been using one of the web site copying programs that converts php pages to html, copying it down then uploading them to my server. Got 1900+ pages on google that way but that sounds easier. :oops:

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

LOL I thought of doing that before, but it is different. These are dynamic pages. :lol: remember the reason why do you use shopping cart script?

Plus, you problebly have a hard time changing pages names as well, not just php to html.

Actually, many people misunderstood something about SE.

pages don't have to be converted to .html extension. You can keep .php

but make it unique pages -- get rid of the query strings.

:wink:

July 30, 2003

Hehe actually it changed the names and then i created an index page to all those pages http://www.the-rage.com/html/index.html its messy but it worked. But I think I will give this contrib a shot and see.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

use this contribution, it's lots easier that what you've done. :wink:

thuyvu · July 30, 2003

use this contribution, it's lots easier that what you've done.

i like the contribution, thanks :lol:

by the way, how do you put a big image in the center of the page of product_info.html ?

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

many search engines only list or crawl unique pages and not anything after ? (queries) such as
product_info.php?cPath=330_359&products_id=1587

product_info.php?cPath=330_359&products_id=2714

product_info.php?cPath=330_359&products_id=3172

I was wondering if you would care to point out a seach engine that does not like dynamic URLs with '?' in them. I ca'nt find one that *doesn't* list the listings in your example as seperate listings.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

well, there's contribution for images thing, but I hacked it myself the way I want. (or customers want)

With the big image, I add large image column field in database and replace the small image and description area in product_info.php with this following code.

$products = tep_db_query("select * from products where products_id = $products_id");

if ($myrow = mysql_fetch_array($products)) {

  do {

     $products_id = $myrow["products_id"];

  $products_model = $myrow["products_model"];

        $products_largeimage = $myrow["products_largeimage"];



     } while ($myrow = mysql_fetch_array($products));



  }



 ?>

 <?

 if ($products_largeimage) {

echo "<img src="images/$products_largeimage" border="0" alt="$products_model : $products_name">";

} else {

echo "<img src="images/default.gif" border="0" alt="$products_model : $products_name">";

}

?>



<br>

then add large image text box in admin area (categories.php) after small image text box. If you need more help, email me. Should I release this as contribution?? :roll: I've done many mods for different spec of osc sites, but I've never jotted a note or remembered what I have done for this and that site, so...

was wondering if you would care to point out a seach engine that does not like dynamic URLs with '?' in them. I ca'nt find one that *doesn't* list the listings in your example as seperate listings.

I didn't say they don't like. I just said, they don't list which meant those links would appear only as product_info.php (no cPath=330_359&products_id=1587)

name search engine? hmm... google, alex, dmoz, yahoo?

I know msn search list them seperately. ( make me believe that all the search engines that use looksmart would list it seperately as well)

Like unitedplus.com, for example. There were about 400 hits a day. After I added the SE friendly mod for 1 week, there are over 2000 hits a day this week. This site is only month old.

something for ya all to judge~

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

Well, I hate to say this, but you are mistaken.

Every single search enging I know of now supports dynamic listings with a '?' in them.

Here's 1340 dynamic listings on google

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...ardsandwars.com

Here's 764 on Yahoo

http://search.yahoo.com/search?x=op&va=pc+...UTF-8&vm=p&n=20

Alexa is powered by google.

More

http://www.alltheweb.com/search?advanced=1...hits=10&nooc=on

I could go on and on, but I think you get the point.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

oh my mistake on that ? issue. hehe, I must be wrong like you said. Good catch!

But that's "search" and I believe there's something else~ advantages of SE friendly mod (mod_rewrite)

something about directories, subdirectories, submitted to be *listed* (note~ listed, not search result) :lol:

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

Well, that may very well be, however, both Dmoz and Yahoo directories both *strictly* prohibit having a domain *listed* in a directory (not the search index) more than once. Therefore, I wouldn't think that you would *want* to have dynamic URL with a '?' in them. Directory listings should link to and only to your front page.

But, just for arguments sake, there is nothing that prohibits a a dynamic URL including a '?' from making it into a DMOZ or Yahoo directory listing.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

both Dmoz and Yahoo directories both *strictly* prohibit having a domain *listed* in a directory (not the search index) more than once.

That's true.

there is nothing that prohibits a a dynamic URL including a '?' from making it into a DMOZ or Yahoo directory listing.

correct

just for arguments sake

dang, and I just woke up!! :shock:

well, all I know is... what I just did to this site, made a huge different result of some sort. There must be something in there~ Your site could get more search results than how it is now if you... just do it. hehe

anyway, I gotta go get coffee~ later

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

Sorry Tammy, I'm not trying to give you a hard time.

I'm just tryingto dispell something that alot of people say, but isn't true.

Seach Engines nowdays have no problems whatsoever with dynamic urls with a '?' in them.

travisb · July 30, 2003

Couldn't you just turn on the "Use Search-Engine Safe URLs" in the admin? Does that do the same thing?

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

<sigh>

No one ever listens. :(

I don't know why I even bother.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

Seach Engines nowdays have no problems whatsoever with dynamic urls with a '?' in them

now, this recon me one of my postnuke sites that got search results on google as ? queries year ago, on a good day*. So it's not a brand new thing.

but I *think* ..for *some reasons*, it doesn't appear to show up as much as unique pages. Results can't beat to be on top 10 of the keyword search from my observation. You might wanna try searching for one of your products keyword to see whether it came up on first page of search results.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

travis,

I thought it's still underdevelopment cause I just installed newest cvs last night and I saw this?

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

Sorry, wrong again.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...wind+prophecies

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...+strategy+guide

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...+throne&spell=1

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...q=buy+gothic+II

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

ok, i'd better go back to bed.

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

is your site listed on yahoo or dmoz?

I bet it is.

** if i'm wrong again, I really need to go back to bed.

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

Actually, our site is still waiting to be listed in the DMOZ directory. It's been on the list for about 6 months. The url we submitted is "www.wizardsandwars.com". I spoke to a DMOZ editor just yesterday, and I am told it will be included *ver* soon.

Yahoo charges $200+ per year to be included in their directory. I refuse to have my listing held for ransom, and therefore will not pay that extortionist fee.

wizardsandwars · July 30, 2003

we do however still show up on the first page of thier search indexes for nearly *all* of our products in a *very* competitive market.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=morrowind...n=20&fl=0&x=wrt

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=star+wars...n=20&fl=0&x=wrt

DIMSUMGIRL · July 30, 2003

lucky you! I must say, this is really rare. (from my observation)

you must have a good lead to this site.

wanna exchange links? :lol:

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