osCommerce-Official Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) osCommerce v4 will come with a number of payment methods. It is being debated now which ones will be included into the "box" installation and which ones will be moved to be apps (free or paid), so the list below is to be confirmed. Payment methods split in two major groups - online and offline. Each sale channel (front end or virtual) may have a number of specific payment methods assigned to it; one and the same payment method can be assigned to more than one sale channel, and in that case the settings of such payment method can be made completely different for different sales channels. Payment methods (same as shipping methods) can be present in the system but be not installed, or activated, or linked to a particular country or region. In that case they will appear in the back end (corresponding filters to be set) but not in the front end. Payment methods can be also linked to particular customer groups only. Payment methods can be made available to particular parts of the system. So there could be payment methods only available to wholesale clients, or only to back end users for example. Offline payment methods are currently as follows: COD (Cash on Delivery) COD for POS Credit Card for POS Cash Collect Purchase Order (likely to be used by customers paying on account) Offline payments (general offline payment method) It is possible to easily extend this list and add more offline payment methods, they mostly act as placeholders and are mostly used to record the fact of payment and then run analytics on what methods customers used to pay. Online payment methods are currently as follows (in no particular order): SecurePay BrainTree Authorize.net PayPal (various implementations, including Express checkout) Klarna checkout (likely + online finance!, to be confirmed) Poli WorldPay SagePay Recurly (to be confirmed) SecPay Pay by Amazon (to be confirmed) MultiSafePay Layby Humm by FlexiFi (online finance!) Global Payments (former Realex) LiqPay OxiPay It is very likely that some of the above modules will be moved to a new category Online Finance before the release of osCommerce v4 UPDATE: Stripe is also available as a payment module!, thanks @14steve14 for pointing this out! Edited March 12, 2021 by osCommerce-Official aisonet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotclutch Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just from my own point of view, all of those online payment methods can be offered as extensions and not be included in the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hotclutch said: Just from my own point of view, all of those online payment methods can be offered as extensions and not be included in the core. Yes, sure. They are extensions as such, but we are looking if we shall supply some of them with the installation or rather leave them in the marketplace to be found and added by the users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotclutch Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, osCommerce-Official said: ... or rather leave them in the marketplace to be found and added by the users. I prefer this. I am sure other people will have their opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥14steve14 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, osCommerce-Official said: osCommerce v4 will come with a number of payment methods. It is being debated now which ones will be included into the "box" installation and which ones will be moved to be apps (free or paid), so the list below is to be confirmed. Payment methods split in two major groups - online and offline. Each sale channel (front end or virtual) may have a number of specific payment methods assigned to it; one and the same payment method can be assigned to more than one sale channel, and in that case the settings of such payment method can be made completely different for different sales channels. Payment methods (same as shipping methods) can be present in the system but be not installed, or activated, or linked to a particular country or region. In that case they will appear in the back end (corresponding filters to be set) but not in the front end. Payment methods can be also linked to particular customer groups only. Payment methods can be made available to particular parts of the system. So there could be payment methods only available to wholesale clients, or only to back end users for example. Offline payment methods are currently as follows: COD (Cash on Delivery) COD for POS Credit Card for POS Cash Collect Purchase Order (likely to be used by customers paying on account) Offline payments (general offline payment method) It is possible to easily extend this list and add more offline payment methods, they mostly act as placeholders and are mostly used to record the fact of payment and then run analytics on what methods customers used to pay. Online payment methods are currently as follows (in no particular order): SecurePay BrainTree Authorize.net PayPal (various implementations, including Express checkout) Klarna checkout (likely + online finance!, to be confirmed) Poli WorldPay SagePay Recurly (to be confirmed) SecPay Pay by Amazon (to be confirmed) MultiSafePay Layby Humm by FlexiFi (online finance!) Global Payments (former Realex) LiqPay OxiPay It is very likely that some of the above modules will be moved to a new category Online Finance before the release of osCommerce v4 I notice that there is no Stripe payments module in the list. Is it something that is planned in the future. Quote REMEMBER BACKUP, BACKUP AND BACKUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, 14steve14 said: I notice that there is no Stripe payments module in the list. Is it something that is planned in the future. Sorry, missed that out somehow - sure, Stripe is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sihi Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I think all offline should be in the box and online in the add-on store where user can download which he want´s. Will be there something like "ship 2 pay" add-on? https://apps.oscommerce.com/HDu72&ship2pay (Different shipments may have different payments) domiosc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, sihi said: I think all offline should be in the box and online in the add-on store where user can download which he want´s. Will be there something like "ship 2 pay" add-on? https://apps.oscommerce.com/HDu72&ship2pay (Different shipments may have different payments) Thanks for your suggestions! Will consider those. Currently shipping and payment methods can be restricted by country, but will look if it makes sense to implement "ship2pay" style restriction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozEworks Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Availability of payment methods is a deciding factor when choosing an ecommerce solution. If we want people to use os Commerce V4 versus other open source, we need to offer as many as possible free of charge out of the box - on and offline. In principal, I think all payment modules supported by the osCommerce team themselves should be included. Any not supported by them should be in the app store. All included should be free to use. Offline needs to include Check. Online definitely needs to include Stripe. Pritchard78 and Demitry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 hours ago, ozEworks said: Availability of payment methods is a deciding factor when choosing an ecommerce solution. If we want people to use os Commerce V4 versus other open source, we need to offer as many as possible free of charge out of the box - on and offline. In principal, I think all payment modules supported by the osCommerce team themselves should be included. Any not supported by them should be in the app store. All included should be free to use. Offline needs to include Check. Online definitely needs to include Stripe. Thanks again, Kym, for a very sensible advise! Basically, don't want to scare people off by putting too much into the "box" so may have to put some of the payment methods into the app store. Really excited about Online Finance options though - that seems to be a massive deal breaker for those stores that sell some more expensive stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sihi Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 10 hours ago, osCommerce-Official said: Thanks for your suggestions! Will consider those. Currently shipping and payment methods can be restricted by country, but will look if it makes sense to implement "ship2pay" style restriction! I have DPD delivery to address with all payments, but DPD Pickup without COD And pick up in our store "COD" for free. As an example Thanks osCommerce-Official 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixAter Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) vor 17 Stunden schrieb ozEworks: Availability of payment methods is a deciding factor when choosing an ecommerce solution. If we want people to use os Commerce V4 versus other open source, we need to offer as many as possible free of charge out of the box - on and offline. This also could be a KO factor. Not everyone needs 30-40 or more payments methods. At the end, I would say, ~95% are not in use. I would say 10 or 15, maybe 20 but not more, most important methods and all others as Add-On's. At Version 2.3.4.1 there are alone 23 methods of Moneybookers, today Skrill. Most of them are only for 1, 2 or 3 European countries. So why should a store e.g. in Singapore have all those methods in the box? I prefer a smaller and clearer , but faster system without to much overload. Edited March 14, 2021 by PhoenixAter osCommerce-Official, Hotclutch and jhande 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domiosc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 2:30 PM, osCommerce-Official said: Currently shipping and payment methods can be restricted by country, but will look if it makes sense to implement "ship2pay" style restriction! It makes perfect sense when shipping depends on the method of payment. For example, for cash on delivery not all shipments are available...etc sihi and osCommerce-Official 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlagShipper Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Currently looking for SquarePay and wishlist secondamendmentprocessing.com. osCommerce-Official 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netpass.prod1 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 3:35 AM, osCommerce-Official said: Pay by Amazon (to be confirmed) I have a client who has been asking me for a long time to assist with formal integration of Amazon Pay into his existing osCommerce store site. On the 2.x release there used to be a 'Checkout By Amazon' module available but Amazon shutdown (stopped supporting) the API that module used for its function sometime in 2018. 1) Is what you call "Pay by Amazon" the same as "Amazon Pay"? 2) Is there any anticipated timeframe for when there might be a confirmation, either way, on whether (or not) this will be available for use in the 4.x release of osCommerce? (So I have an answer to give to my client.) Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Gyakutsuki Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) I propose you to include a Bitcoin (or other crypto) company payment. The digital crypto is on the way (tesla do that now). Edited March 26, 2021 by Gyakutsuki osCommerce-Official 1 Quote Regards ----------------------------------------- Loïc Contact me by skype for business Contact me @gyakutsuki for an answer on the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, netpass.prod1 said: I have a client who has been asking me for a long time to assist with formal integration of Amazon Pay into his existing osCommerce store site. On the 2.x release there used to be a 'Checkout By Amazon' module available but Amazon shutdown (stopped supporting) the API that module used for its function sometime in 2018. 1) Is what you call "Pay by Amazon" the same as "Amazon Pay"? 2) Is there any anticipated timeframe for when there might be a confirmation, either way, on whether (or not) this will be available for use in the 4.x release of osCommerce? (So I have an answer to give to my client.) Thank you! This is a very important integration and will either be implemented by the osCommerce team as an app, or we will welcome an app created by an osCommerce development partner to the marketplace. As to the timeframe - the earliest it is going to be would be July or August this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Gyakutsuki said: I propose you to include a Bitcoin (or other crypto) company payment. The digital crypto is on the way (tesla do that now). Great idea, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppala Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Am 26.3.2021 um 10:30 schrieb osCommerce-Official: Great idea, thanks! Look at iota. They have a lot news in the pipeline, that maybe interesting for oscommerce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deansmar Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 If I remember correctly, we have not used any of the supplied payment methods.. all ours are addons.. Banktransfer (europe), Cheque/money order, phone with card... So long as the add ons are available for V4 that would be okay for me.. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lis19 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Can you add First Atlantic Commerce payment gateway? It's popular in the Caribbean and Latin America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I think likely as @Hotclutch I mean... Some people doesn't need 120 payment methods in a single e-Commerce shop. That may be more efficient to gather them 1 by 1 when we have needs for. Anyway, all of additional payment methods (which was involved to be included in core) would be aswell free as... external plug-in. The result to have unwanted payment methods can also lead to security breach (even not-installed/not-enabled, due to the fact files will be here aswell) (I mean since modules aren't all useful for payment/shipping stuff, why include them into main OSCommerce 4 release (and furthermore releases)). Just my thoughts on it, but when I develop an OSCommerce site, I only have the use for 3-4 payments methods. Perhaps, for a GIIIIIIANT site, ... it will be useful, but not for a small one, but also perhaps I'm wrong.. ? Anyway, I love what I see in term of ergonomy and features! Keep up that excellent job on OSCommerce future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annuity Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Hi, I just wanted to ask regarding Paypal specifically. It looks like Paypal have replaced the old hosted/web payments pro with a new solution called Paypal checkout. Will one of the payment modules supplied with v4 be Paypal checkout please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radhavallabh Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) @osCommerce-Official Hi is CCAvenues also available? It shall be great Edited February 1, 2022 by radhavallabh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osCommerce-Official Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 6/23/2021 at 1:57 PM, annuity said: Hi, I just wanted to ask regarding Paypal specifically. It looks like Paypal have replaced the old hosted/web payments pro with a new solution called Paypal checkout. Will one of the payment modules supplied with v4 be Paypal checkout please? It is the new one by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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