Show PayPal fee in order total

[SCH_001]

Hi all, PayPal in Australia will no longer be refunding the transaction fee if we refund a customer which we often do due to order changes etc.

So  what I would like to do is add a section to the check out confirmation page that shows the amount of the PayPal fee and have it read

PayPal non refundable component : $

And also have this on the email order confirmation email that the customer receives.
Maybe at the bottom under Total
Where and how can I do this
Version is Frozen BS CE

Also where and in what file can I add text here

 

[♥JcMagpie]

This has been discused on this forum before but unable to find the thread, but simple add comments to checkout_payments.php. This was done as a test using COD as did not have PayPal active on test site but same method can be used for PayPal.

[♥JcMagpie]

 Please check and backup before making changes. This is for CE BS4 so your files may not be the same so check placment

in checkout_confirmation.php find

<?php
  if (MODULE_ORDER_TOTAL_INSTALLED) {
    echo $order_total_modules->output();
     }
?>

and add below this ( change % to your requirment)

<?php
$newtotal = ($order->info['total']*0.05);
?>

Then find this,

</table>
  <hr>
 
  <table class="table">
    <thead>
      <tr>

and add below this ( mine is set up for "cod" so you need to change to paypal),

<?php if($payment == "cod"){?>
         
         <button id="pay" class="btn btn-danger">NOTE:- Dear customer if you cancel the order or return as unwanted after payment has been made by Cash on Delivery (COD) we will
          refund your payment less the Cash on Delivery payment fee, this is 5.0% of the total payment made using COD. For this order the retaind COD fee will be <?php echo $currencies->format($newtotal);?></button>
       
        <?php }?>

 

Now /public_html/checkout_payment.php find,

 </tbody>
  </table>

  <hr>

and add below this,

<?php
$newtotal = ($order->info['total']*0.05);
?>
        
          <button id="pay" class="btn btn-danger" disabled>NOTE:- Dear customer if you cancel the order or return as unwanted after payment has been made by Cash on Delivery (COD) we will
          refund your payment less the Cash on Delivery payment fee, this is 5.0% of the total payment made using COD. For this order the retaind COD fee will be <?php echo $currencies->format($newtotal);?></button>
        <br><br>

 

That's it just change your code to paypal insted of cod. Shoud just work remember backup first. 

Please check and test before using on live site. files attached are for Frozen BS4 so make any changes required for your site.

checkout_payment.php

checkout_confirmation.php

Edited September 18, 2019 by JcMagpie

[SCH_001]

Thankyou @JcMagpie yeah I brought it up ages while I was still running 2.3.1 but removed it all because PayPal never implemented the changes. But they are going to now.
I will most likely add your code but I want to add some code to the paypal files
See my thread here which I am getting some progress with

 

[♥JcMagpie]

Yes your right PayPal was a bit shady with this change. Aparently they had a big backlash from customers in the USA and put off the change for a while but I belive they are now sneeking in back into the terms.

It looks like another "because we can" move from PayPal. Still lots of option open to people only time will tell if customers are willing to put up with it.

[SCH_001]

@JcMagpie Please have a look at the topic... Do you have any idea on where I need to add my code?

 

[SCH_001]

@JcMagpie Installing this at the moment but the text won't line wrap it just goes off the edge of the screen?

I am running Frozen BS3 I think - Installed Version: osCommerce Online Merchant v2.3.4.1 CE

 

          <button id="pay" class="btn btn-danger" disabled>NOTE:- Dear customer if you cancel the order or return as unwanted after payment has been made by Cash on Delivery (COD) we will
          refund your payment less the Cash on Delivery payment fee, this is 5.0% of the total payment made using COD. For this order the retaind COD fee will be <?php echo $currencies->format($newtotal);?></button>
        <br><br>

 

[♥JcMagpie]

Not sure why check your code again as it should worrk fine. I hve no issues, it's fully responsive.

[SCH_001]

Checkout payment.php commented at the moment

<?php
$newtotal = ($order->info['total']*0.05);
?>
<!--        
    <button id="pay" class="btn btn-danger" disabled>NOTE:- Dear customer if you cancel the order or return as unwanted after payment has been made by Cash on Delivery (COD) we will
          refund your payment less the Cash on Delivery payment fee, this is 5.0% of the total payment made using COD. For this order the retaind COD fee will be <?php echo $currencies->format($newtotal);?></button>
        <br><br>
        -->

[♥JcMagpie]

Try checking your code as the code you posted here looks to be bad. See the silly red box at the end! Must use a clean editor when doing this.

You code with error removed added below mine on my test site works fine.

 

 

[♥JcMagpie]

pm or post link to your site. clearly the commeting is not working as the note is still showing?

Edited September 21, 2019 by JcMagpie

[SCH_001]

I uncommented it get the screen shot

www.supercheaphobbies.com.au

[SCH_001]

added this to user.css

.btn{white-space:normal;}

[♥JcMagpie]

When you get an error like this it's a clear sign that your code is broken. You are missing a closing tag at some point causing your site to scroll in width.

[♥JcMagpie]

You should not need any aditional css to make a button responsive, the problem is in your code.

[milerwan]

@SCH_001

To avoid being plucked by PayPal, between fixed fees, commissions and now no refund of commission fees in case of cancellation, I suggest you install paypal_standard and use my module that increments "processing fees" in case of payment by PayPal.

Like this, in case of refund or not, you will never concede money on your sales to PayPal.
 

[SCH_001]

@JcMagpie Googling the issue seems to say yes you do, but not sure it worked for me, I recall @Heatherbell having a similar issue

 

@milerwan I don't want to charge a fee on every PayPal payment as the fee can be quite high on some of my sales and I could lose the sale. Instead I have changed to authorize first and once the customer accepts the order ie accepts that there is an extended wait time or a substitute item we will capture the funds. I am working on making the customer aware that an order paid by PayPal if canceled after this stage that the PayPal transaction fee will not be refunded

 

[SCH_001]

@milerwan can you point me towards your module so I can have a look.

[♥JcMagpie]

Please remember this was done just to show it could be done. You should if using this on a live site make some changes, move the text to a languge file and use user.css to add any styling you need.

 <button id="pay" class="btn btn-danger" disabled><?php echo TEXT_CONTINUE_CHECKOUT_PROCEDURE_WARNING?> <?php echo $currencies->format($newtotal);?></button>

 

1 minute ago, SCH_001 said:

Googling the issue seems to say yes you do

hey no problem you do what you need to in geting your site working... all good..

[bonbec]

1 hour ago, milerwan said:

@SCH_001

To avoid being plucked by PayPal, between fixed fees, commissions and now no refund of commission fees in case of cancellation, I suggest you install paypal_standard and use my module that increments "processing fees" in case of payment by PayPal.

Like this, in case of refund or not, you will never concede money on your sales to PayPal.

This is not allowed by the paypal rules and the french laws ...

Edited September 21, 2019 by bonbec

[milerwan]

Just now, bonbec said:

This is not allowed by the paypal rules and the french laws ...

Sorry to say that but you can apply any fees you want in order total. ^^

[SCH_001]

The rules here in Australia allow the seller to charge a fee as long as it's not more than the fee charged by the payment gateway.
PayPal rules also allow for it.

[milerwan]

3 hours ago, SCH_001 said:

@milerwan can you point me towards your module so I can have a look.

I have just uploaded at the moment (2 times by mistake ^^) my module.
Here are the links :

- https://apps.oscommerce.com/6aWHK&paypal-fee-v2

- https://apps.oscommerce.com/Uyola&paypal-fee-v2

Edited September 21, 2019 by milerwan

[SCH_001]

@milerwan Using your PayPal fee module if I commented out line 84
          $order->info['total'] += $paypal_fee;

Will this still show the PayPal fee but not add it to the total?
I am hoping I can set the sort order high enough that it will appear under the Total.
and then changing the language file to something like Non Refundable PayPal Fee

If line 84 is the incorrect line to comment out / change can you please point me in the right direction

[bonbec]

On 9/21/2019 at 2:19 PM, milerwan said:

Sorry to say that but you can apply any fees you want in order total. ^^

No Gwenn :

Appelé le surcharging“, cette pratique est interdite par le code Monétaire et financier dans son article L 112-12. « Le bénéficiaire ne peut appliquer de frais pour l’utilisation d’un instrument de paiement donné. Il ne peut être dérogé à cette interdiction que dans des conditions définies par décret, pris après avis de l’Autorité de la concurrence, compte tenu de la nécessité d’encourager la concurrence et de favoriser l’utilisation de moyens de paiement efficaces ».

In english :

Called overcharging ", this practice is prohibited by the Monetary and Financial Code in its article L 112-12. "The beneficiary may not charge a fee for the use of a particular payment instrument. This prohibition can be waived only under conditions defined by decree, taken after the opinion of the Competition Authority, taking into account the need to encourage competition and promote the use of efficient means of payment.

 

PS : On the other hand nothing forbids to grant a reduction with another means of payment ...

Edited October 2, 2019 by bonbec