Guest Posted June 20, 2003 Posted June 20, 2003 There's such a proliferation of php nuke based cms systems out there. I just wondered which ones people like best. I want to be able to customise it fairly severely, like I am currently doing with osc, and I like the way osc is rellatively easy to monkey around with, and more importantly, how thriving these forums are. so, what'll it be do you reckon. Do I go with xoops, exoops, phpnuke, postnuke, myphpnuke,etc...
Guest Posted June 20, 2003 Posted June 20, 2003 Hi, I'd put my 2 cents behind phpnuke. I've built sites around this before that are unrecognisable as nuke - fairly easy to get to grips with once your familiar with it... BrianD
Guest Posted June 20, 2003 Posted June 20, 2003 sounds good. It's important to me that they don't look too nukeish. :)
Guest Posted June 21, 2003 Posted June 21, 2003 I suppose when it comes down to it - both osCommerce and phpNuke look fairly similar - left and right columns, center block for information etc .... have a look at some of the stores built with osC and it'll show the design freedom that's possible.... BrianD
loxly Posted June 22, 2003 Posted June 22, 2003 I like phpNuke and have 20-30 sites using it. You need to look at the cms systems and you have to see which features you like and need and what you are comfortable with. I have made the decision to go with phpNuke and to stay with it after trying PostNuke, working with Xoops and talking to people that use it. There are other folks here that have their own preferences, look, listen and test. That's the only way to figure out what will work for YOU and your CUSTOMERS/CLIENTS And that's my advice..... [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks]
johnnyo Posted June 23, 2003 Posted June 23, 2003 "I just wondered which ones people like best" Might want to dig for yourself and see which one You like best because you just might end up being married to it. I myself have chosen Postnuke because I think the support community is large. What I saw in the forums was people having questions and being answered about what appeared to be simple issues, I keyed in on that because I really didn't know what the hell I was doing. It's very possible the other Support Forums for other nukes are just as large. You'll here all kinds of negative stuff re: each one of these nukes. Infact even in these Forums someone mentioned that Postnuke wasn't a good choice because the code development had been stopped, which it had until a few weeks ago. But when you take alook at what really happened, because of the long code freeze I've never seen so many new modules and features come out. It gave 3rd party developers plenty of time to create literally hundreds and hundreds of new features and functions. So in closing, Everything is not as exactly as it appears to be. Frankly, I think all these nukes are good, but thats just my opinion. John
loxly Posted June 23, 2003 Posted June 23, 2003 I'l take a look at the new postnuke, but the reason I switched to phpnuke was because post nuke had a non-existent upgrade path, meaning if you had a customized postnuke site and a new version came out, you couldn't just upgrade you had to trash your site and start again. I've been upgrading phpnuke through several upgrades and haven't lost any functions (yet - crosses fingers) Just my experience, and I am willing to take a second look, but I used both nukes on separate sites for months evaluating the available mods and ease of customization and upgradability. That is why I pointed out in the above post that you need to really define the features you need and see what has them and is stable. Debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks]
loxly Posted June 23, 2003 Posted June 23, 2003 But when you take alook at what really happened, because of the long code freeze I've never seen so many new modules and features come out. It gave 3rd party developers plenty of time to create literally hundreds and hundreds of new features and functions. Would you like to share where this hot new code is? I find nothing newer than march on the post nuke site. [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks]
Guest Posted June 23, 2003 Posted June 23, 2003 I think the support forum is the most important factor. I know that with osc I can usually find a solution to my teething problems fairly quickly (thanks guys!). Then there's how easy it is to monkey around. I want to be able to kill boxes/ move them between columns etc, design my own stylesheet, without much of an in depth knowledge of php. feature wise, they're all pretty much of a muchness as far as I can see (aren't they?) I've no idea why the code is so forked. seems rather strange.
johnnyo Posted June 23, 2003 Posted June 23, 2003 loxly, you are right about this "non-existent upgrade path" It wasn't until version .721 (at this point Postnuke had created an API so all developers of 3rd party modules could follow a standard, I guess), prior to this you had to basically wipe everything out. So far .721, .722, .723 and it looks like .724 and 8.0 will upgrade no problem, like you said, "keep em crossed". 8.0 will have the Template Engine (Xanthia) although this is already available as an add on module. Re: "Hot New Code", I'm trying to think of one place that would have alot of new stuff so you don't have to look all over, one place I like is http://portalzine.de, although encompassing several CMS's it's primarily 95% Postnuke. Again, please keep in mind I was referring to 3rd party modules (features and functions) and not necessarily the Postnuke install package. Again, I'm not saying Postnuke is the best, Frankly I kind of like Zaraya (sp) headed up by John Cox, but if I jumped on something different everytime I thought something else might be or appeared to be better I would never get anything done. I've made my bed and this is where I lie. Thanks John
johnnyo Posted June 24, 2003 Posted June 24, 2003 The above URL has a comma in it, Sorry. Man, I'm dangerous. Anyhow, http://portalzine.de I have learned alot from this site, more so than all the other Postnuke sites combined. A small portion of this site is subscription based, here you may download I-Blocks and I-Modules that MagicX (great guy by the way) has developed modules and blocks that you just don't see anywhere else. A major portion of Portalzine (non subscription) has hundreds of blocks and modules, you can see the numerous recent additions just by looking at the News dates. Another thing I like is that when you post a problem or whatever and it goes unanswered "satisfactory", although this rarely happens because of the strength, MagicX usually (maybe always, can't be certain) will jump in and take care of you. Now that I'm looking at what I just wrote, It almost seems like an advertisement, I guess as a Postnuke user I'm just happy Portalzine exists. Thanks John
gmax21 Posted June 25, 2003 Posted June 25, 2003 I've tested just about all the CMS you will find and even a couple of paid ones, and after many hours, I went to Xoops, because of it's ease of use, installation, themes are much easier to make even for the beginner, modules are also fairly easy to make. The comunity is superb, and there are many support sites. Also there is a OSC module coming to xoops and you can find this on a german site http://www.myxoops.com and for a example http://www.myxoops.info this is nearing completion and should be released soon. Of course this is only IMHO, but I run 5 sites on Xoops now, after using the nukes and it runs much more smoothly and is less of a server load. Hope this helps some one. Kind Regards Timothy Bowers Bowers & Vee
Guest Posted June 25, 2003 Posted June 25, 2003 I've been doing lots of research into the whole thang. I've registered and posted on most of the nukey sites. I've checked out in depth a ridiculously useful site, http://www.opensourcecms.com which has a basic install of most open source cms systems available to play with (both as a user and an admin). I'm pretty settled on xoops now. it behaves itself more in my browser (Apple Safari), seems easy(ish) to customise, and has a great forum. I posted a similar question on a few forums about comparative qualities etc. There were 7 really helpful, honest answers from different people on the xoops forum within a couple of hours, and none at all on the other forums within a day or so... The only thing I don't like is the pop-up menus in the admin area! I was also impressed with e107 which looks great for smaller sites. It took about 30 seconds to have a proper install! It seems to run fast too, building pages really quickly. So I'm going to go with xoops for the current project, because it's going to be quite a big site, with lots of varied content. And e107 for a smaller site I'm going to build soon, as there seems to be more design freedom with that system.
gmax21 Posted June 25, 2003 Posted June 25, 2003 Hay, was one of the people that replied called TOM as there username, if so that was me, and I'm glad you chose Xoops, good luck with it all, and remember my username on Xoops is Tom, if you need anything. Cheers Kind Regards Timothy Bowers Bowers & Vee
Guest Posted June 25, 2003 Posted June 25, 2003 Hi. Thanks for your help over at the xoops forum. I'll see you there again soon probably!
loxly Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Re: "Hot New Code", I'm trying to think of one place that would have alot of new stuff so you don't have to look all over, one place I like is http://portalzine.de, although encompassing several CMS's it's primarily 95% Postnuke. Again, please keep in mind I was referring to 3rd party modules (features and functions) and not necessarily the Postnuke install package. commas after urls cause problems ;) I still don't see new post neuke code since march. will keep looking, but phpnuke seems to have solidified it's support community, is ganging up on the security issues and is in general working the best for the majority of my needs right now. [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks]
johnnyo Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Thats why I posted this immediately after I realized my mistake The above URL has a comma in it, Sorry. Man, I'm dangerous. Anyhow, http://portalzine.de I have learned alot from this site, more so than all the other Postnuke sites combined. A small portion of this site is subscription based, here you may download I-Blocks and I-Modules that MagicX (great guy by the way) has developed modules and blocks that you just don't see anywhere else. I think Postnuke just came out with a new version yesterday .726
David Pook Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 I just want to add that i use postnuke. I have looked at phpnuke I have looked at mambo I have looked at xoops I found that mambo and xoops running on an apache server was much slower than phpnuke and postnuke. I heard some "orrible" stories about phpnuke and security scares..... not saying its true but just what i heard. (didnt help my phpnuke site being hacked twice in 2 days) !! I eventually went for postnuke. The newest version being .761 (it has xanthia themes etc) Its good..... I like it and I wont be changing to anything else in the near future. :)
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