calgary_iceman Posted June 5, 2003 Posted June 5, 2003 Here's a strange one for you: http://www.stockhouse.ca/news/news.asp?new...1724944&tick=HM Seems a company called Wicked Wares just sold HMC a product called AIMS (Active Inventory Marketing System). Here's a list of the features: http://www.wickedwares.com/aims/features.p...d763a28eccbce83 OSCommerce appears to be an exact replica of this product. It's obvious that the developers at OSCommerce hacked into Wicked Wares and stole the code. Therefore, user of the software may be liable for copyright infringements.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAA. Canadians.... I just can't get enough of them! :lol: Never rub another man's rubarb!
Daemonj Posted June 6, 2003 Posted June 6, 2003 That is kind of the same as how product looks almost like osC, only in blue. Go into the store demo. I wonder if that is an infringement on osC's trademark? "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - A. Einstein
Guest Posted June 6, 2003 Posted June 6, 2003 I was looking at J shop just a couple of weeks ago and they admitted, after a little prodding, that it is based on OS Commerce. The also said that they could customise it as they have a 'very talented' programmer but wouldn't let me speak to him with a couple of questions I had!!
lorax Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 If they had half a clue about the history and popularity of OSC they'd smarten up. Geesh! Apathy is a dominant gene - mutate.
Guest Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 It is a bit of a rip off isn't it ? I did like the category box in one of their demo sites though - do you think they'll complain if I blatantly copy it and sell it as my own design ? http://www.golfpi.com/catalog/index.php :D
Daemonj Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 I did like the category box in one of their demo sites though - do you think they'll complain if I blatantly copy it and sell it as my own design ? :D Isn't GPL great? 8) Go ahead and grab that category box. :lol: "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - A. Einstein
Guest Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 I did like the category box in one of their demo sites though - do you think they'll complain if I blatantly copy it and sell it as my own design ? :D Isn't GPL great? 8) Go ahead and grab that category box. :lol: Yes Jim, the GNU/GPL is great, however the design and images are still covered by individual copyrights. I wouldn't recommend stealing a design. Being inspired and making your own interpretation shouldn't be a problem though. Changing the code to have the categories lined up on the right instead of the left is doable. To be honest....I'm not quite sure what that point of this conversation is... :?
Daemonj Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 In re-reading my post I can understand why there is a misunderstanding of what I mean to say. My statement of "Isn't GPL great?" was directed at the fact that the JShop Server product was esentially a fork of osC. I would not be surprised if the "developer" frequently visits here. My statement of "Go ahead and grad that category box" was meant more as a tongue and cheek statement and not actually advising anyone to take someone else's work. I hope that this post helps to clarify the actual intent of my last post. "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - A. Einstein
Guest Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 Thanks for the clarification! It's so hard sometimes to "feel" the intent of a post when you can't see the face and hear the voice. :D :D
jshop Posted June 9, 2003 Posted June 9, 2003 We have been emailed by a customer of ours alerting us to this thread on the osCommerce forums. We are not here to promote our product but we would like to put the record straight. First of all our product is in no way based on, derived from or copied from osCommerce. Look at our feature list, look at the fact that the system is template driven etc. What 'kingdomk' has said (quote below) is untrue. If Harald Ponce de Leon would like to confirm this for himself, we are quite willing for him to examine the source code of our product. In addition we are constantly developing new features that are requested to us from our clients, so the second part of his message is untrue as well. I was looking at J shop just a couple of weeks ago and they admitted, after a little prodding, that it is based on OS Commerce. The also said that they could customise it as they have a 'very talented' programmer but wouldn't let me speak to him with a couple of questions I had!! Secondly, with regards to this post: That is kind of the same as how product looks almost like osC, only in blue. Go into the store demo. I wonder if that is an infringement on osC's trademark? Please look deeper at the product before making a cursory assumption on it. Look at the administration system, look at the fact that the system is 100% template driven - this system isn't an infringement, a copy or anything of the sort. The demo store uses the default templates that come with JShop Server and follows the normal way that web stores normally present their information. As I said we're not here to promote our product but we cannot allow blatantly untrue rumours about our product pass without a response. We have been producing off the shelf e-commerce packages and bespoke systems for 6 years now, we have no reason to copy another product.
dbl07 Posted June 9, 2003 Posted June 9, 2003 I didn't see any mention of AIMS software on the Wicked Wares site but I noticed that their "Hardware" section resembles osC. Despite their contention that the site is "Powered by Wicked Wares", which is a little bit contentious, they do mention that the e-commerce engine is copyright and trademarked by osC in their "Conditions of Use" section. I don't see any problems with them doing this. In fact, wouldn't the only real contention of the GPL come if they didn't provide code changes to whoever wanted them? The GPL doesn't prevent them from caliming it is theirs (does it?). Perhaps this is a discussion for the GPL forum. Dbl07 Shaken! ... not stirred!
dbl07 Posted June 9, 2003 Posted June 9, 2003 To the BrianD user..... I did like the category box in one of their demo sites though - do you think they'll complain if I blatantly copy it and sell it as my own design ? I'm quite certain that Golf Products International would be concerned. You guys should really brush up on your GPL for OSC. Images and corporate likeness are not covered by GPL. In fact, any binary isn't covered by GPL. GPL is a licensing for source code. As images are not source-code, you would be impinging Golf Products International's copyright if you were to use their images without consent. FYI.... you should read this! http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.html Dbl07 Shaken! ... not stirred!
eredman Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 I clicked the link in the 1st post and got a dns error. Are they offline?
seCret steVe Posted June 10, 2003 Posted June 10, 2003 this is by far alot of effort put into osCommerce.. and i really like the work done on this site....it is built straight of the osCommerce and is amazing to see that it is by far looks like osCommerce....good job to the person who worked on the design aspect
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