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on google's search engine my site's description is yucky. It lists my catagories tabs and menu's and doesn't say any information about the site.

 

I understand google gets the site description from the first sentences of your webpage, so is there anyway you can enter some hidden descriptions in oscommerce so that google's description can be as you choose?

 

If so, where and how can i enter the hidden description?

 

Thanks! :D

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This is a good question. Google has chosen to put the last line of my web site as the description and I would prefer something better than the list of trademarks as a description of my site. Is there some reason Google doesn't show a description from the top of the page?

 

Here's my listing:

Oak Valley Development

... CSpeed, Gloolabs, BOC Edwards, Metrotech, Giga Labs, K2 Optronics, Endovasix, Compression

Science, Metertech, Sylmark, Wadia, and Oak Valley Development are ...

www.oakvalley.com/ - 7k - Apr 27, 2003 - Cached - Similar pages

 

Our other site's listing is much better even though it was creating using a very similar coding style.

Arbuckle Community Church

Arbuckle Community Church A Village Missions Church Every Member a Minister. Pastor

Billy Crone, Sunday Schedule. 8:00-9:15, Church Service & Children's Church, ...

www.arbucklechurch.org/ - 5k - Cached - Similar pages

In olden times the men were made of iron and the ships were made of wood; now it's the other way around. :wink:

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The description you get depends upon what you search for.

 

So, this search:

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&...rce+solution%22

 

give exactly the same result URL for this search:

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&...G=Google+Search

 

In effect Google serves up a portion of the relevant content of your page depending upon the search term.

 

Thus:

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&...G=Google+Search

 

Gives the same URL as:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-...G=Google+Search

 

In short, it depends upon the search term used as to what you see in the Google result.

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So if I do this search, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...G=Google+Search, it shows the part of the page I would prefer, although without the quotes it still shows the bottom of my page even though it doesn't contain the word is.

 

Since Oak Valley appears 3 times on my page is there a way to tell Google which one I would prefer them to display?

 

It would be nice if Microchip's link to me showed my listing instead of microEngineering and if they updated the addresses in their PDF every two or three years, but that's outside the scope of this forum.

In olden times the men were made of iron and the ships were made of wood; now it's the other way around. :wink:

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So if I do this search, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...G=Google+Search, it shows the part of the page I would prefer, although without the quotes it still shows the bottom of my page even though it doesn't contain the word is.

 

Since Oak Valley appears 3 times on my page is there a way to tell Google which one I would prefer them to display?

To be honest, you'd be better off changing your page around a bit to allow for better Search Engine Positioning...
It would be nice if Microchip's link to me showed my listing instead of microEngineering and if they updated the addresses in their PDF every two or three years, but that's outside the scope of this forum.
Indeed. Outdated links are worse than useless.
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outdated links can be very useful. If you have control of your error pages

rewrite them so that they do a redirect to your main page. Meaning if over time you end up with dead links listed on google, this is away to have that potental client still find your front page.

 

 

 

We had our site listed as this "farrellart....is empty! please select a keyword..." That was because of the shopping cart box, and the search box..... so we rewrote the boxs to better reflect what we wanted, it took about a month, but google updated and changed the discriptions.

 

have fun

 

Sean

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I have re-routed the old links on my page to the new links using the 404 page. It even automatically tries replacing the .html on the end with .php.

 

The problem links are the ones from outside sources, like Microchip. My company is one of their main consultant companies for their products in Silicon Valley but we can't get a good listing on their site unless we change our name to AAA Oak Valley Development. I've tried to talk them into listing by volume of chips designed into products (i.e. increases in their revenue) instead of alphabetical order, but it ain't happening.

In olden times the men were made of iron and the ships were made of wood; now it's the other way around. :wink:

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Paul,

That's a tough one.

 

I did a search at micochip

 

The only suggestion I would have is to add more info to this

 

Oak Valley Development is a group of consultants that specializes in microprocessor controlled Electro-magnetic and analog electronics. We have complete engineering resources to do all phases of a project from prototype through high volume production. We are willing to use all or any portion of our capabilities to meet your requirements.

 

It seems that others who are listing on thier site say 2-3 times as much as you do.

 

It would seem if you bring them alot of Bizz, get them on the phone and talk them into some kind of better listing for your site!!

 

Sean

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It seems that others who are listing on thier site say 2-3 times as much as you do.
A lot of engineers like things to be concise, but I probably should add more.
It would seem if you bring them alot of Bizz, get them on the phone and talk them into some kind of better listing for your site!!
I tried that a while ago, they said I could have as many A's in front of my company name as I need to get to the top of the list, whether or not that's our legal name, but I think that would be kind of cheesy.

In olden times the men were made of iron and the ships were made of wood; now it's the other way around. :wink:

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well here's a thought

 

try listing your name as "An answer to your Needs"

 

Then start the parigraph off with "Oak Valley Inc. is the answer to your etc etc" If they say you can put anything as your name.... Put a teaser as your name. do you see where I'm going with this? It seems that they will not drop your listing if you put something other than your real bizz name...soooo try a teaser that starts with a few AA's

 

just a thought

 

Sean

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But when i do a search on poodle predictor to see how my google listing will appear, the description is unreadable information about "my account" and "catagories" etc (text from my webpage).

 

How can i edit oscommerce so that there is hidden text at the top of my page (or something similar) so that google and poodle predictor show what i want, rather than the garbage..

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what your asking to do is called cloaking, that's not something anyone here (that I know of) would support, because it will get you banned from google. You may search other forums, if your insisting on cloaking. Google does not use meta tags, they use the text from your page. Thus when building your website, you need to word it with searhing in mind.

You can also control what pages google visits with a robot.txt file

 

 

Have fun

Sean

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Im not sure if cloaking is actually what im after.

 

Take my site on poodle predictor as an example -

 

Gamers Cage - Australian online store for PC and Video Games gamerscage Top ? Catalog My Account | Cart Contents | Checkout Categories Consoles (4) Game Cube(32) Playstion 2(48) Pre-orders(9)...

 

The title is fine, however the description is very messy. I would rather have a description like "Gamers Cage specialises in Xbox, Playstation, Gamecube and PC Games. We have competative prices and ship nation wide"

 

Is there any way to have the above listed instead? I would assume all i would need to do would be have this information on my page, and have the text BEFORE the 'catalog my account | cart contents' text. However im sure that would look very messy on the page.

 

Any ideas?

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Im not sure if cloaking is actually what im after.

 

Take my site on poodle predictor as an example -

 

Gamers Cage - Australian online store for PC and Video Games gamerscage Top ? Catalog My Account | Cart Contents | Checkout Categories Consoles (4) Game Cube(32) Playstion 2(48) Pre-orders(9)...

 

The title is fine, however the description is very messy. I would rather have a description like "Gamers Cage specialises in Xbox, Playstation, Gamecube and PC Games. We have competative prices and ship nation wide"

 

Is there any way to have the above listed instead? I would assume all i would need to do would be have this information on my page, and have the text BEFORE the 'catalog my account | cart contents' text. However im sure that would look very messy on the page.

 

Any ideas?

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I'm not sure that this "poodle predictor" is giving you the correct format, what does google say?

 

Really there should be no panic, wait till google indexs you and then go from there.

 

Do searches for other oscommerce sites and see how they come up and what is listed.

 

It's just a matter of seeing how you get indexed then tune your page.

 

have fun

Sean

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There are a couple of things you can do......Make sure yout page title is a descriptive phrase about the page it's for not just a generic "My Site". You can also put some descriptive text in the header. I put all of my header graphics in the background and used a table over the top to put a descriptive phrase in. It usually gets read by the spiders before all of the menu stuff. You can either hardcode the copy or use an include from a language file.

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I use alt text for the logo type images (that are top of my site).

 

Mouseover the first two images (top left and just next to it) on my site to see the alt text. I believe this is what will get listed in Google. So Poodle Predictor tells me. (The site is not live yet).

 

www.redinstead.com.au

 

Jen

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FIRST:

 

I know that google doesn't rank your page based off them, BUT

 

google will use meta descriptions as basis for site description, so I'm using Linda's wonderful header tag contribution... it lets you place meta tags on individual pages to your site...

 

Like all my products have part of their description in the meta tag description for relavance on searching...

 

Anyway, if you don't have meta tags THEN it will use the first components to your page...

 

My site isn't live, but I hope I'm understanding this stuff right...

 

I thought I had it all "down," but only the "submit" button on google will truly tell...

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Sometimes, ignorance is bliss.

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Google does not use META descriptions... period.

 

It uses text from your page surrounding whatever keyword(s) were searched for. If the keyword(s) searched for are not in your page anwyhere, then google will just display some text from your page (usually from the beginning of the page).

 

Google will not ever show your META description anywhere on any search... EVER.

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