RonCain Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hi Raiwa I don't want to seem like a know it all; but recently I was having some issue with my store. The result was going through my error log to find the issue, which lead to a few problems which were unseen. I noticed in the espanol modules that line 73 and 74 have been deprecated in OSC CE Phoenix and now cause a PHP declaration error. I have removed them from my shop as I believe they are now unnecessary. I hope this is good information and will help some. Please follow up and let me know. Ron domiosc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domiosc Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, raiwa said: Never used these platforms and not sure if it would be more work to set it up than to update the translations. Each language is maintained by only one developer., so I'm not sure if there would be any benefit. the idea is for all languages and hosted solution, but is possible self hosted type https://pootle.translatehouse.org/ very much open source use similar solutions how joomla & virtuemart for example, electron use https://crowdin.com/page/open-source-project-setup-request The benefit is clear, the first does not depend on one developer, the admin/developer remain rights and can manager all, and translate is open to all people specially to translators like contribute and people help to advance or can translate more languages. There is no single point of view, so the result is translation was more accurate with sintaxis contextual. From my point of view and although I don't speak English,the actual translations they lose part of the meaning or are very long being literal translations, have typos, define missing/over and others... I not say your translation is bad, secure I can't do better, I say together we can make it better. It is clear that each one can fix it for oneself, that is also will done equal, but the origin should be agreed and labeled as official. When I start to adapt your translation to my considerations I think to collaborate, even more when in the first 20 files I found 6 typos and check not all is translated. If in each version I have to check what files have changed and that they changes it becomes unfeasible, however with a solution like the one mentioned, you can see who modifies what and when and it is reversible. Maybe git can be used, but I don't know how and it is a brake for non-developers, others have developed their own i18n solution facturascripts.com, many others use others such as weblate.org , this is a good self-hosted option, others are paid and the free plans do not always cover the needs of oscomerce but much of they are free plan for Open Source. Here 16 -best-translation-management-systems that can be reviewed and a clearer summary in this great webpage https://free-for.dev/#/?id=translation-management And this page is a curious more advanced solution https://translated.com/developers Sorry for this brick Edited January 7, 2020 by domiosc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Dear Vicent @domiosc, I believe there is a misunderstanding. I was and I am always open for teamwork. The origin of the actual version was a teamwork between 4 members of the forum @piernas, @PiLLaO, @TITO4 and me, like you can see in the instruction file. When I say it is maintained by one developer I wanted to say that this is a fact since a couple of years, not a desire. The original team was working together in the update of a previous 2.3.4.1 standard version to an EDGE version and then to FROZEN. SInce then I'm maintaining and updating alone, except for some error reports from @valquiria23. I'm not a native spanish speaker, but living in Spain since almost 30 years. So it might be understandable that there are some literal translations of the newer definitions. I would be very happy to get again a team built up which for sure will see more than only 2 eyes. How this can be realized is the question. Until now we have the GITHUB repository: https://github.com/raiwa/OSCOM-CE-Phoenix-Spanish-language-idioma-espanol The preferred way would be to push any fixes or suggestions there. As I pointed out, I have no experience with the platforms you mention and just no time to try them out and decide which would best fit what we need. I have already a lot of work to keep the existing 3 places up to date: GitHub repository, App on the marketplace and on my WEB. If it is easy and fast to use one of your suggested platforms and link it to the already existing, lets do it. But please, if you have any experience, decide which platform and do the setup there. Maybe the maintainers of the other languages would be also interested and jump in: @cupidare (german), @Fredi (russian) and @Denkster (Dutch). For the errors, suggestions please take in consideration the following details we agreed in the original translation team: - upper/lower case follows the pattern of the english original. It doesn't follow the strict ortographic rules. - We didn't consider it necessary to translate absolutely everything on the admin side. Because all the configuration entries and module descriptions are also in english and translation is not supported by the system (monolingual database entries) - my Spanish package is oriented to the Spanish localization in Spain. Latin America and other regions will need to produce their own localized version. Please let me know your thoughts and how we can proceed. 15 hours ago, RonCain said: I noticed in the espanol modules that line 73 and 74 have been deprecated in OSC CE Phoenix and now cause a PHP declaration error. I have removed them from my shop as I believe they are now unnecessary. Hello Ron, Please post the full path and filename where to find the mistake. I'll then be pleased to fix it. Or better push an request to the GitHub repository. Thanks to both of you and kindest regards Rainer Edited January 7, 2020 by raiwa domiosc and valquiria23 2 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonCain Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Hi Raiwa \catalog\includes\languages\espanol.php I noticed that line 73 and 74 have been deprecated in OSC CE Phoenix and now cause a PHP declaration error. I have removed them from my shop as I believe they are now unnecessary. I hope this is good information and will helpful as I am not any master coder. Please follow up and let me know. Ron raiwa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, RonCain said: Hi Raiwa \catalog\includes\languages\espanol.php I noticed that line 73 and 74 have been deprecated in OSC CE Phoenix and now cause a PHP declaration error. I have removed them from my shop as I believe they are now unnecessary. I hope this is good information and will helpful as I am not any master coder. Please follow up and let me know. Ron Thanks Ron, I'll await more corrections from Vicent and update it. But this should not produce any error if the definitions are not used any more. It can produce errors if the same definitions have been moved to another file and are now duplicated. But this is not the case. Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredi Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, raiwa said: If it is easy and fast to use one of your suggested platforms and link it to the already existing, lets do it. But please, if you have any experience, decide which platform and do the setup there. Maybe the maintainers of the other languages would be also interested and jump in: @cupidare (german), @Fredi (russian) and @Denkster (Dutch). Yes, that's a good idea. Multilingual support needs to be organized jointly and to concentrate all available languages on one platform. I am ready to participate in this for my language. Additionally, you need to make it possible to output configuration definitions in the multilingual format in Admin. Today, OSC and Phoenix are bad supported in this regard. This creates a problem for people and peoples who do not know English well. This holds back application in different countries. This needs to be fixed. Edited January 7, 2020 by Fredi domiosc, raiwa and valquiria23 3 Quote Support forum for osCommerce in russian language - from Ashkelon. Support since 2002.Best regards, Fredi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valquiria23 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fredi said: Additionally, you need to make it possible to output configuration definitions in the multilingual format in Admin. Today, OSC and Phoenix are bad supported in this regard. This creates a problem for people and peoples who do not know English well. This holds back application in different countries. This needs to be fixed. That is true !!! It is a very good opportunity for improvement. Hopefully the Core team @burtwill take it into consideration for upcoming versions or explain why it won't. When that is done @raiwa count on me for the new translations. Best regards Valqui Fredi and domiosc 2 Quote Community Oscommerce fan You'll find the latest osC community version here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domiosc Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 hours ago, raiwa said: As I pointed out, I have no experience with the platforms you mention and just no time to try them out and decide which would best fit what we need. I have already a lot of work to keep the existing 3 places up to date: GitHub repository, App on the marketplace and on my WEB. 5 hours ago, raiwa said: Please let me know your thoughts and how we can proceed. Me neither, but I think we should try. as usual you hit the spot, and almost all the proposals end here, Who is going to be in charge? I know all of us who make proposals point to the same people and it is true that you already do to much, the initiative must come from new people It is also true that many of those we do proposals are also we not able to do more. I'm only an normal user so I can't contact to payment systems which offer free plans for open source community, so the most I can do is install several of these solutions and share to test for the rest people want collaborate to create the rules system and try from my modest knowledge. But think is preferible this start for example by Harald and host here.. Please anyone check the links of this platforms and show your opinion, Which do you consider to be a better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredi Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I am ready to provide a server and domain for the implementation of such a project. Those who are interested in installing software for this project on server, can contact me. Softvare to example - https://opensource.com/article/17/6/open-source-localization-tools Edited January 7, 2020 by Fredi Quote Support forum for osCommerce in russian language - from Ashkelon. Support since 2002.Best regards, Fredi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonCain Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Hi Raiwa Thanks for the feedback, here is the error I was getting: PHP Warning: Use of undefined constant REVIEW_TEXT_MIN_LENGTH - assumed 'REVIEW_TEXT_MIN_LENGTH' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in .../includes/languages/espanol.php on line 73 when compared to English and French lines 73 and 74 do not exist and once removed the error goes away; but I do not know if the code has been moved to another module or not. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, RonCain said: Hi Raiwa Thanks for the feedback, here is the error I was getting: PHP Warning: Use of undefined constant REVIEW_TEXT_MIN_LENGTH - assumed 'REVIEW_TEXT_MIN_LENGTH' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in .../includes/languages/espanol.php on line 73 when compared to English and French lines 73 and 74 do not exist and once removed the error goes away; but I do not know if the code has been moved to another module or not. Ron Ok, makes sense. Thank you Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 1:05 AM, domiosc said: the actual translations they lose part of the meaning or are very long being literal translations, have typos, define missing/over and others... Hello Vicent @domiosc, I'm awaiting your corrections and suggestions to update the package together with Ron's fixes. If you are not familiar with GitHub to push it there, you can always send me a PM with the corrected files or a detailed list of your corrections. Just please do not send the complete package with your version. It would be too much work to search for your changes. Thanks and kind regards Rainer Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domiosc Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Now I'm bussy, I think to start again from 1.0.4.2 because I don't check if you fix from 1.0.4.0 After check what files modified from originals and report you Edited January 10, 2020 by domiosc raiwa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.4.2.r1 for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.4.2. Español para OsC CE https://github.com/raiwa/OSCOM-CE-Phoenix-Spanish-language-idioma-espanol Includes some minor fixes reported by @domiosc and @RonCain Update instructions included. valquiria23 and Fredi 2 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.4.3. for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.4.3. Español para OsC CE valquiria23 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.4.4. for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.4.4. Español para OsC CE valquiria23 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.5.0. for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.5.0. (1.0.4.5.) Español para OsC CE valquiria23 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.5.1. for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.5.1. Español para OsC CE valquiria23 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.5.2. for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.5.2. Español para OsC CE domiosc and valquiria23 1 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Uploaded Versión 1.0.5.3. and 1.0.5.5. for OSCOM CE Phoenix 1.0.5.3. and 1.0.5.5. (1.0.5.4 has no language changes) Español para OsC CE valquiria23 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valquiria23 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Muchas gracias Rainer!!! Se que están pasando un mal momento en España. Ojala todo mejore pronto, cuídate mucho!!! Fredi 1 Quote Community Oscommerce fan You'll find the latest osC community version here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4wdautoparts Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Hola, Espero esten bien, aprovechando el tiempo de cuarentena, decidi crear una pagina web para mi negocio. Acabo de instalar Phoenix 1.0.5.6, instale el paquete de español de Raiwa, lo instale como predeterminado. Acabo de notar que el paquete esta diseñado para la version 1.0.5.5 tendre que bajar a la version anterior? Saludos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥ecartz Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, 4wdautoparts said: tendre que bajar a la version anterior? For the moment, you could just leave the PI modules turned off in admin > Layout Modules > Product Info. As they're the only new translations that I can see in includes/languages. https://github.com/gburton/CE-Phoenix/compare/1.0.5.5...master A few more in admin/includes/languages but those shouldn't be blocking. Quote Always back up before making changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valquiria23 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, 4wdautoparts said: tendre que bajar a la version anterior? Hola autopartes. Tenés dos opciones. Bajar la versión 1.0.5.5 usando el link de arriba y usar el paquete de @raiwa o seguir con la 1.0.5.6 y esperar que salga el paquete de idioma más actualizado e instalarlo. Yo esperaría un poco ya que @raiwa los actualiza muy seguido y tiene excelente soporte además de ser una persona muy amable. Saludos Valqui Edited April 2, 2020 by valquiria23 hungryfrank 1 Quote Community Oscommerce fan You'll find the latest osC community version here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 @4wdautoparts, Hola, espero encontrar tiempo para la actualización a 1.0.5.6 este fin de semana. Un saludo Rainer valquiria23 1 Quote About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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