fleeced Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I run an old shop on 2.2 with a STS template that works great and has been patched/updated etc. (I know I should upgrade to 2.3.4!) Just wondering whether it is a simple enough job to make my STS template responsive, so it works on mobile/tablet better. Maybe add in some device detection in the HTML and then refer it to a different CSS file? Or change my fonts from px to em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥raiwa Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I run an old shop on 2.2 with a STS template that works great and has been patched/updated etc. (I know I should upgrade to 2.3.4!) Just wondering whether it is a simple enough job to make my STS template responsive, so it works on mobile/tablet better. Maybe add in some device detection in the HTML and then refer it to a different CSS file? Or change my fonts from px to em? Hello Lee @@fleeced, I think it wouldn't be so easy. Reasonable solutions would be: 1. install iosc mobile add-on: http://addons.oscommerce.com/info/8629 2. upgrade your store to 2.3.4 bootstrap. https://github.com/gburton/Responsive-osCommerce 2 is for sure the better way and your store will be prepared for future updates. For 1 you'll need to apply your add-ons and customizations to the mobile file set (public store site changes which have functional effects, create custom pages). For 2 you'll need to do the same on the whole store (Admin+public). Your old database can be migrated. regards Rainer About Me: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/user/249059-raiwa/ Need help? How To Get The Help You Need Is your version of osC up to date? You'll find the latest osC community version CE Phoenix here. Public Phoenix Change Log Cheat Set on Google Sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 @@fleeced it is time for you to bite the bullet and make the leap to Responsive. Considering the products you sell (assuming I am looking at the correct shop!), I would have thought your clientelle to be very technology savvy and therefore you would want the best website you can possibly give them (and of course Google who love Responsive websites). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥14steve14 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I thought from reading one of your other posts that you already run a site which is bootstrap based, so you can already see just how easy it is to modify. Take the plunge, alter the look of the basic BS version. It may taske a bit of time, but it will be well worth it in the end. Once coding is complete, then transfer your database information across to the new one. If you cannot do this yourself there are plenty here that could for a small cost. Just post in the paid for help area. Then as Gary has already said your site will not be penalized, not only by Google, but by other search engines for not being mobile friendly. REMEMBER BACKUP, BACKUP AND BACKUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥bruyndoncx Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 iosC mobile really enforces a phone app look responsive bootstrap is better for tablets imo KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON I do not use the responsive bootstrap version since i coded my responsive version earlier, but i have bought every 28d of code package to support burts effort and keep this forum alive (albeit more like on life support). So if you are still here ? What are you waiting for ?! Find the most frequent unique errors to fix: grep "PHP" php_error_log.txt | sed "s/^.* PHP/PHP/g" |grep "line" |sort | uniq -c | sort -r > counterrors.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeced Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Yep, I love BS - so impressed. But to get everything moved over and working is too much of a task at the moment. Plus as with many small businesses, the concept of moving sites is all well and good but the risks to livelihood etc should it go wrong or cause a drop in sales can be too great a risk. The old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" certainly can be a valid argument at times. In the STS, we use tables with 100% setting. It doesn't work too bad and we have conversions we have never been penalised by Google in our mobile rankings. But trying to get mobile sales up. But as it stands, there is no way a single HTML(STS) template could be made responsive or clone a mobile/tablet HTML version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥14steve14 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 First off don't assume that Google have not penalised you in mobile searches, its really the wrong attitude as the chances are that they have. Google have admitted that they will show mobile ready sites at the top of searches from a mobile device. Other search engines are following suit also. So the chances are that you will have been penalised. Look at your website as an investment. You would have to pay maintenance on a brick and mortar store, so spend some money on your website. A B&M store will need tidying, cleaning and painting to keep it looking fresh, so do the same to your website. A website should never be considered as a free item. Money well spent on a decent website will, or should. reward you with more sales and an increase in financial benefits. Most design looks can be done with bootstrap and a good design will help your business, and someone from this site could move the data to the new site easily. Your customers would appreciate a site update and you can then spend some money advertising the new look and boost sales. REMEMBER BACKUP, BACKUP AND BACKUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotclutch Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 There's no risk either. You build your new shop into a test folder with database contents, so you can see exactly what you will have. Then all that remains is to change the configuration files when you are ready. If for some reason there's a problem, you can just revert to your old setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhil Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Indeed, the only cost needs to be some of your time (if you can handle installation, configuration, and minor coding), and if you have the time to try to upgrade osC 2.2 to responsive, you probably have the time to transfer your data to a 2.3.4BS store (or wait a little bit for 2.3.5 or 2.4, whichever comes out next). Granted, your store will look a bit different from your current STS template, but until (and if) STS is updated to 2.3.4 and responsive, you will probably have to tweak 2.3.4BS to look and feel something like a modernized version of your current store. It's understandable that you hesitate to invest the time, but in the long run you will be better off having a modern code base. With each upgrade of your host's PHP version, you risk having something break in your store, and any overlooked and unpatched security issues could cause problems. At the very least, install 2.3.4BS into a private directory and play with it, importing your current store (use a copy of the database, and upgrade that database). See what you need to do (add-ons and custom code and CSS changes) to get your store looking and acting the way you want it to, keeping in mind that you will likely never exactly match your current store, but every store needs a periodic refresh, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeced Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 I am looking to ramp up my coding skills with PHP and Bootstrap with some online training then eventually C#, Java (I know this isn't in OSC) So perhaps this can serve as a learning/building project as I learn. Some good advice here, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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