hankfrid Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I am setting up some websites and need a reliable source for WebHosting services. I need someone that offers reselling, as I'll set up others for clients in near future. Of course I need PHP, Win2K server etc. The main reason I'm asking here is because I'm already sold on osCommerce. I guess it's the techie in me. For years I've been a mainframe consultant and just dabbled in PC stuff. Well I'm working on a full switchover. I figure with all the osCommerce users here, many of you can save me a lot of time and recommend who you have had good experiences with. I was almost sold on a company and was set to pay almost $300 for a year of service, when I found fraudulent statements and they asked me to send the money to India to an individual via MoneyGram.....but that is a whole other story. If anyone wants to hear that one, reply and I'll put it under a separate post. It's pretty funny. The good side of that bad story is that they were proposing osCommerce for their E-Commerce site services and they gave me a link here. Anyways, any help is greatly appreciated. I look forward to getting involved with everyone and hopefully contributing later. Thanks, Hank :? If I build it...they will come. If I don't try to build it.....I will never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Ponce de Leon Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Tried Google? You might also want to look at our sponsors. , osCommerce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto_mg Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I've been looking as well for the last two weeks. My biggest surprise has been how useless the people at pair networks are. I would have thought that they would be eager and willing, but they seem far from it. I've contacted them on 3 separate occasions and their responses have been half hearted at best. I recently sent them 5 specfic questions about their services and the response from John was "I believe OSCommerce would run on our servers, however we do not provide the software nor any support for it." The other questions went unanswered with a comment to look on the web site. Doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy about working with them.... :evil: Google is useless too as most hosting companies out there want you to buy whatever shopping car they are equipped with. Most of the time it is Miva which I view as an inferior product than osCommerce. Which is counterproductive if you are trying to do an osCommerce built site. Plus most of the people you get on the phone at the larger hosting companies are just order takers and haven't a clue. Dell and Aplus and Hostway come to mind here. On the other hand, I found a couple of people that were helpful and some that even offered osCommerce to you as part of their CPanel and even offered to do base setup for you free! Now that is what I call cool :D At the risk of having this post deleted I won't post the names of the hosting companies that I found useful. PM me and I'll get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto_mg Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 at the risk of getting this post deleted, let me try my luck. hosting companies that i found eager to support osCommerce are: EDITED: Best not to advertise other hosting companies. Thanks, Linda. I don't know why the people at osC would object to hearing about hosting companies that are actually furthering their effort.. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajeh Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I don't know why the people at osC would object to hearing about hosting companies that are actually furthering their effort.. :wink: Most sites that are offering osCommerce are offering the software but no support with it. While it is nice that osCommerce is included as an option for a shopping cart, there often times is no support for 3rd party software by the hosting company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto_mg Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Linda etal, sorry if i was a little fired up in my first post, but this has been a pia. now re: support - if you are referring to pair's response to me, support is not the issue. i do not expect someone to support a system they are either not familiar with or do not sell to me directly. actually, support was not even in the scope of the questions that i posed to pair. the reference to support appears to be general response #1 from pair when posed any questions to the effect of "can i use osCommerce in place of the shopping cart you sell". some hosts flat out say - no. either you buy what i have or look elsewhere. the bigger ones especially. when you get someone who has a little bit more of a clue, you can press them a little further and they will concede that you can install the software so long as it does not violate their TOU. the issue is finding a hosting company that isn't going to complicate your install. i found a few thanks in part to the recommendations from others on this forum, but it is definitely not as easy as trying the top hitters on Google. now back to work... adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ree Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 I found my most excellent host a year ago by reading and searching at http://www.webhostingtalk.com In fact, here are the results from a search of OSC hosts One of OSCommerce and one for oscommerce host Mr. Ree How to find answers to OSC Common Questions 1. Look at http://wiki.oscommerce.com 2. Search http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/ 3. Post a request in http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 I don't know why the people at osC would object to hearing about hosting companies that are actually furthering their effort.. :wink: Most sites that are offering osCommerce are offering the software but no support with it. While it is nice that osCommerce is included as an option for a shopping cart, there often times is no support for 3rd party software by the hosting company. With this statement being true... If there was this Host ( :wink: ) that was not only offering osCommerce FREE with their Hosting Packages, but also installs it for FREE, as well as offering Support for osCommerce, would that be considered different? I would be interested to know. -R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Most sites that are offering osCommerce are offering the software but no support with it. While it is nice that osCommerce is included as an option for a shopping cart, there often times is no support for 3rd party software by the hosting company. Would be interested to know what difference this makes ? Is it better (from a Core Team perspective) that the Host both installs and supports Oscommerce ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseigel Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 With this statement being true... If there was this Host ( :wink: ) that was not only offering osCommerce FREE with their Hosting Packages, but also installs it for FREE, as well as offering Support for osCommerce, would that be considered different? I would be interested to know. -R That was a pretty lame attempt at self-promotion. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Is it better (from a Core Team perspective) that the Host both installs and supports Oscommerce ? There are many ways a host can support osCommerce. 1. Promotion - let people know they will be using an open source product and provide links to osCommerce. Don't try to get away with making people believe you coded the entire product as they will discover sooner or later it is in fact osCommerce. 2. Write documentation 3. Donations - Is ?10 per customer install a lot to ask for? 4. Browse the forums ocassionally to see if there are questions you can answer 5. If you have the skill write a contribution and be part of the osCommerce community. They only hosts I object to are the ones who install osCommerce, don't really know what they are doing then blame the problem on osCommerce and send all the customers here when all the host has done is downloaded a snapshot a few months ago. Never looked at the forums or attempted to help anyone. They just see the $$$ and feel they have the right to ask us to support customers who are paying them :( Note: These are my personal opinions only not of the core team Mark Evans osCommerce Monkey & Lead Guitarist for "Sparky + the Monkeys" (Album on sale in all good record shops) --------------------------------------- Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-San Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Note: These are my personal opinions only not of the core team Never-the-less, shared by many of us I think! Ian-san Flawlessnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 1. Promotion - let people know they will be using an open source product and provide links to osCommerce. Don't try to get away with making people believe you coded the entire product as they will discover sooner or later it is in fact osCommerce.2. Write documentation 3. Donations - Is ?10 per customer install a lot to ask for? 4. Browse the forums ocassionally to see if there are questions you can answer 5. If you have the skill write a contribution and be part of the osCommerce community. Interesting. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Is it better (from a Core Team perspective) that the Host both installs and supports Oscommerce ? There are many ways a host can support osCommerce. 1. Promotion - let people know they will be using an open source product and provide links to osCommerce. Don't try to get away with making people believe you coded the entire product as they will discover sooner or later it is in fact osCommerce. 2. Write documentation 3. Donations - Is ?10 per customer install a lot to ask for? 4. Browse the forums ocassionally to see if there are questions you can answer 5. If you have the skill write a contribution and be part of the osCommerce community. So, if all of the above is strictly adhered to, would that make it okay for a host to advertise their services? -R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseigel Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Not here! :shock: Harald has made it very clear that nobody, no matter what they do for OSC, is outside of the rules of this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajeh Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Most sites that are offering osCommerce are offering the software but no support with it. While it is nice that osCommerce is included as an option for a shopping cart, there often times is no support for 3rd party software by the hosting company. Would be interested to know what difference this makes ? Is it better (from a Core Team perspective) that the Host both installs and supports Oscommerce ? Two ways of saying something that I did not think was clear. I did not know I was in an essay contest here ... :wink: As to wanting the Hosting site to provide the support ... no, I would not particularly want that. I have not found too many hosting companies that have the time nor inclination to really learn a third party software. They tend to be busy enough handling hosting issues. I do have a problem with those Hosting sites that offer osCommerce, or any software, that they are not willing to work with a customer to configure the environment, get them started with the basics, etc. I prefer that people come for help here, as they will lose out on a lot of valuable knowlege and support that the forum has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 So, if all of the above is strictly adhered to, would that make it okay for a host to advertise their services? Absoultely not!! These forums are not and I will hope will never be a place for people to say "Use my wonderful hosting will only cost u 10 cents and month with unlimited bandwidth" There are other places on the Internet for that and those types of posting should stay there. This is a community to discuss osCommerce nothing more and nothing less :) Mark Evans osCommerce Monkey & Lead Guitarist for "Sparky + the Monkeys" (Album on sale in all good record shops) --------------------------------------- Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parikesit Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 I also looking for a good web hosting. I only can spend $15-$20 / month zaenal recent contributions: mySQLi extension for osc 2.X, OPI: advanced image handling (ajax, thumbnail, watermark, etc), and other contributions all here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 EDITED: please do not advertise commercial hosting sites. Try a search engine to locate one to suit your needs. Thanks. Linda A very satisfied customer, Neil. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 A very satisfied customer, Neil. :wink: I reckon that guys like you just get banned outright... no questions asked.... think your just SO smart..... posting at the end of a thread that clearly show what you are doing is wrong......absolutely no respect for these forums or the forum rules... why would we want you here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 looks like someone got out the wrong side of the bed today!!! I'll have to read the rules, my fault, I'll put up my arms right now and admit it, but there was no need to be very offensive against other OSC users. Just like the "OTHERS" we are only trying to help other osc users (and not read the forum rules before hand). I apologize to have caused any upset to the forum in any way :roll: NeilD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snagelcat Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 I prefer that people come for help here, as they will lose out on a lot of valuable knowlege and support that the forum has to offer. I agree with this statement. I have found in the past when a host gives too much support, the client ends up not learning anything about thier store what so ever!! The php element is tough for many, but if a person wants to be a webmaster of thier osC site, they should at least learn a few things about it. Being there is soo much support on this very subject :lol: have fun Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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