about the rules of the forum channel

[snagelcat]

I'd like to ask the "community" on thoughts about this statemant

 

To also keep true to the general forum rules, the work involved here must be contributed back to the community and be available in the Contributions section.  

 

We ask that part of the money involved for installation and similar services be donated to the osCommerce team to help with the continue development of the project.

 

Just for a moment, what if microsoft said:

 

All of the work involved with MSWORD must be contributed back to the microsoft community and be available in the in the MicroSoft Contributions section.  

 

We ask that part of the money involved for installation and similar services be donated to the Microsoft team to help with the continue development of MSWORD.

 

I mean tring to control the USE of thier software AFTER it's out of thier hands, and claiming ownership of any other developments by 3rd parties

goes AGAIST the GPL in my opinion. It's something that MSN fought agaist

in court and LOST.

 

I'm a big one for contributing back to this community, and I do.

That's not the point here.

 

Any comments would be welcome, as this is a question about this area of the phpBB

 

have fun

Sean

[Harald Ponce de Leon]

Hello Sean - why am I not suprised?

 

I moved the thread to the general forum so that the "community" can participate.

 

Since you've read the rules on the new channel, you would have noticed that replying could only be done via PM.. but alas.

 

I mean tring to control the USE of thier software AFTER it's out of thier hands, and claiming ownership of any other developments by 3rd parties goes AGAIST the GPL in my opinion. It's something that MSN fought agaist in court and LOST.

 

Where is it stated that "we" own the work that is contributed?

 

"We" are providing you a chance to get some work done for your own store - nothing of benefit to osCommerce or the community and thus any related posting made would normally be deleted here in the forums due to the general forum rules (all work discussed here must be under the GPL license and available in the Contributions section).

[rseigel]

Sean

 

If you dislike the way things work around here then why are you here?

 

The only thing you're doing here is making yourself look like a child (and doing a really, really good job of it I might add).

 

Harald is very much within his right to ask that projects that use his resources (this forum, the core team's hard work and the community as a whole) be contributed back to the community. You also have the right to go away if you so choose. IMHO if you choose to stay though you should have enough respect to honor Harald's wishes. After all, OSC wouldn't exist in it's current form without the hard work of Harald and the core team (and other's that have contributed over the years).

[Guest]

Sean,

 

In the spirit of open source, my question to you would be why not donate any scripts you have made back to the community? You are afterall, benefitting from the the original script and you still have every right to charge for installation. That is what open source is all about.

 

I think it is fair for Harald to ask for a portion of any earning generated from answering a post on the channel too....If you had gotten a job via an employment agency, or through some other referral service you would have had a hefty fee for their services.....Think of making a donation to the the team as a "finders fee"...and the job as a bonus that you might not have gotten otherwise.

[snagelcat]

Ron I don't agree with you, However I respect the fact that you speak your mind. I believe more should speak thier mind good/bad/indifferent

 

have fun

Sean

[snagelcat]

KIM

 

OZ moved this post out of the section it belongs to

 

goto "Seeking Commercial Help" read the rules...then come back and reread my post

 

I think things will get clearer for ya

 

thanks

 

Sean

[burt]

IMO, I think it's the responsibility of those earning an income from using Oscommerce to 'donate' same funds back to the Core Members.

 

I think that's fair.

 

There are other areas of Osc/this site/Forum that I'm unhappy with but those issues can be saved for another time and another day...they are not overly important as the GPL license overrules much of what is said and done on this site...

[snagelcat]

I noticed the "topic name" got changed also

gee wiz.. the topic rname WAS "Riles about Seeking Commercial Help"

 

if you move a topic, don't change the name

 

cuse you just started a different discussion

[Guest]

Sean,

 

My eyes are wide open, thank you, and I read and understand the rules as posted.

 

You don't seem to understand the concepts. If Forum resources are used "payment" is expected.....that payment can be in the form of cash or "in kind" as contributions.

 

I think it is very simple and straight forward.

[Guest]

I honestly don't know what the issue is... If you don't like their rules, then don't do business in their forum. I am sure many people are going to be following that route. There are many other places where you can carry out commercial endeavors without worrying about being controlled with what you do.

 

The owners of this site have decided to not allow that so you should simply deal with it and grow up.

[Mark Evans]

I'm a big one for contributing back to this community, and I do.

That's not the point here.

 

What is the point???

 

We are not forcing you to give us money we only ask that you consider what you as a developer get from the forum (Work and money). Is it so bad to put 10? back into osCommerce??

 

What does a developer make for a major mod?

 

What does a store owner get out of not paying for a store which is very functional out of the box?

 

Every person I do work for knows that the work is covered under the GPL and I also ask that they allow me to give the code back to the community.

 

95% of people agree.

 

The 5% that don't agree I don't code for :)