Guest Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Can OSC pages be "spidered" by SE like Google, etc? If not, how is this made possible? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Do a search on the forum for Google....you will find it has been discussed many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthrash Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Sounds like a great opportunity for a FAQ subject! Ryan Thrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Discussed many times - never fixed or working correctly. Should be the single most important item to fix in OSCommerce. Search engine results = bread and butter for ANY e-commerce site. If you can't be found in a search engine, or worse yet if you CAN be found for hundreds of products, and have #1-#3 rankings for each of them but your search URL's on the google index send you to a page that doesn't create a session variable so you can't add the item to your cart... what's the point? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolcrazy Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Your right, sessions are the problem, but without sessions, anybody without cookies can't purchase items from your site. But, sessions create a security problem if search engines publish them. And your right the dev team should work on the problem. Only thing is, the dev team is working on the problem, Ian has posted a contrib called session killer for google and other search engines. Dreamscape has also posted a fix for the buy now buttons too. And they both work just fine. Ian is part of the dev team and has been working on fixes for a while. an OSC pages be "spidered" by SE like Google, etc? If not, how is this made possible? Thanks! Yes, OSC can be spidered by google and others. There is plenty of testimony to this on this forum. But your are best to get the two session killers to keep them from posting the sessions they create when they spider your site. Spiders come in without cookies enabled, so they create sessions. They index your site then post the sid's that they create. Customer clicks on the sid and come back to your site. But the sid creates problems. CatHerder's comment isn't totaly correct. If you use a sid killer it creats a URL that is clickable and the item can be added to the customers cart. Proof. Click on this link and then add it to your cart. It works. This link will be the same link that will be listed in google. http://www.withthread.com/product_info.php...p?products_id=5 I have Ian's and Dreamscape's sid killers installed and they do work. I'm sorry, I've been rambling. And, CatHerder, You do have a valid point. The dev team needs to enable the cookie, sessions switch so you have a choice and If you choose sessions a sid killer in the core code. Steve ------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Discussed many times - never fixed or working correctly.Incorrect. I have every product listed in Google (and others) without SID. What more do I need to change your mind ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiley Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Incorrect. I have every product listed in Google (and others) without SID. What more do I need to change your mind ? How? Are you using sid killer/s. If so - whose? Are you using a meta tag generator? If so - whose :?: HTH Neil Common sense is genius dressed in working clothes. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 How? Are you using sid killer/s. If so - whose?Yes. Mine.Are you using a meta tag generator? If so - whose :?:Yes. Mine. hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolcrazy Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 How? Are you using sid killer/s. If so - whose? Yes, I am using Ian's sid killer contrib Are you using a meta tag generator? If so - whose Yes, Linda's contrib Steve ------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Hmm, the URLs generated on this site look like this: http://www.connecttech.net/product_info.ph...products_id/985 Try a search on google for " 6 ft. Side Mount Channel " and see for yourself. But once you click that link - you do end up on the right product but it can't be added to your cart... you can hit your back button once you go to an empty cart, then re-add the item and the cart works fine from there onwards (the empty cart page must be creating the session). I suppose I could redo the site and install the other mods you mentioned - but then wouldn't that waste a thousand indexed products, most of which have #1 to #3 rankings? That would be a bad thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medisave Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 I agree the SID killers do work but yes the direct link and unable to add to basket is a real problem However the ? are a problem - yes they do get registered but from experimentation the same exact pages get a lower page rank in google with the ? present. After switching one of my domains to search engine friendly URLS the page rank went back to what I was used to about +2PR extra. So anyone know how we can fix the search engine friendly URLS so that a customer can add to basket when reaching the page directly - surely we can set the session on the customer arriving at the page?? Anyone know how to change the code around to let this happen? Graham Wright ________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolcrazy Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 MMMMMM. I'm going to have to test your statement. http://www.withthread.com/product_info.php...p/products_id/6 Steve ------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolcrazy Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Hmm, the URLs generated on this site look like this: http://www.connecttech.net/product_info.ph...products_id/985 Try a search on google for " 6 ft. Side Mount Channel " and see for yourself. But once you click that link - you do end up on the right product but it can't be added to your cart... you can hit your back button once you go to an empty cart, then re-add the item and the cart works fine from there onwards (the empty cart page must be creating the session). This is strange becuase, If I do the samething you did, like the above URL, I CAN add the item to the cart, without a problem, and that is with search engine friendly URL's on. It must have something to do with the setup of his cart. Try it!! http://www.withthread.com/product_info.php...p/products_id/6 Steve ------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medisave Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Thanks for that observation but with a little more testing it seems its a red herring. Well yes there is something different with that cart - its set not to display cart page when someone adds the product (from admin config) - it only appears in the right column "cart". However this still does not fix the problem because when you click on another category somehow a new session starts and your shopping basket is empty again! I would love to get search engine safe urls working correctly! Other than that Im thinking about making a mod to allow me to to point all urls to an inputted URL (by hand and held in the database) and then putting a 1000+ entries in httpd.conf to mode_rewrite most of my site (sigh - big job though!) but thats how much I think about the penalisation im getting with a ? in the URL!!! Cheers, Graham Wright ________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugitty Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Steve; Went to the link you offered, clicked immediately to add to cart, product was added, clicked to check out, went to create account page, entered account info, went to create success page, continued and cart was empty. While I didn't have a failure to add to the cart initially, it does appear to lose the product in cart when you log in. (You might want to delete testy tester as a customer - that's me) ... if you want to REALLY see something that doesn't set up right out of the box without some tweaking, try being a Foster Parent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_w Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 QUOTE ("toolcrazy" This is strange becuase @ If I do the samething you did, like the above URL, I CAN add the item to the cart, without a problem, and that is with search engine friendly URL's on. It must have something to do with the setup of his cart. Try it!
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