christianbright Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 For the past few months I was operating my site with the osC catalog below the root. Initially I had done this for SEO, because I named the catalog folder "buy" and set my keywords accordingly. I didn't realize that my blog, terms, privacy, and so on would also be under /buy at the time. I used an SEO module that did not work well either, and so my categories had to be renamed. Some of the site has been indexed, and thousands of links have been followed by googlebot. After my site dropped in ranking a few pages for duplicate content problems I decided today to move the catalog to the server root. I just recently found out as well that the new SEO module I am using from MagneticOne has a bug where it inserts the canonical tag into every category and product. I had used a modification in index.php and product_info.php that inserts the product name into the title, but for some reason I am still getting the same duplicate content problem (weeks after) Duplicate titles, descriptions even though they are not identical, similar but not identical. So after all of this I am stuck wondering, how do I recover from this? I'm waiting for MagneticOne to fix their bug issue which I believe should help me some. Does anyone know of a way to display the category name and product properly in the title? Should I be removing the pages that were already indexed in google since they would all return 404's now? Any guidance is appreciated.
NodsDorf Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 Ultimate SEO / Header Tags supported by Jack_mcs Example from one of my product pages: http://www.rubberstore.com/catalog/straight-epdm-rubber-bellow-3536mm-128mm-connector-84mm-p-8056.html Source Code As seen by Bots: <title>Standard Rubber Bellow Straight Multi Convolute Bellow BS-5070 - Straight Rubber Bellow 8-20 mm » Straight Rubber Bellows 8-20 mm connector</title> <meta name="Description" content="Standard Rubber Bellow Straight Multi Convolute Bellow BS-5070 - Straight Rubber Bellows 8-20mm, Straight Rubber Bellow 8-20mm, Straight Rubber Dust Boots 8-20mm, Straight Rubber Convoluted Boots 8-20mm, Bellows 8-20mm" > <meta name="Keywords" content="Buy Rubber Bellow, Rubber Bellow, Rubber Bellows, Stock Rubber Bellow BS-5070 ," > <meta name="robots" content="noodp" > <meta name="slurp" content="noydir" > <meta name="revisit-after" content="1 days" > <meta name="no-email-collection" value="http://www.rubberstore.com" > <link rel="canonical" href="[url="view-source:http://www.rubberstore.com/catalog/straight-epdm-rubber-bellow-3536mm-128mm-connector-84mm-p-8056.html"]http://www.rubberstore.com/catalog/straight-epdm-rubber-bellow-3536mm-128mm-connector-84mm-p-8056.html[/url]" > By using the header tags, and Ultimate SEO modifications we have achieved ratings as high as number 2 on Google for specific keyword terms. The actually display location does fluctuate however, depending on the time of day. SEO does not simply include getting the right keywords, and content but also many other factors help your rating. Using free-links, posting on high rated forums, blogs, press releases can help your page ranking and Search engine rating.
♥FWR Media Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 For the past few months I was operating my site with the osC catalog below the root. Initially I had done this for SEO, because I named the catalog folder "buy" and set my keywords accordingly. I didn't realize that my blog, terms, privacy, and so on would also be under /buy at the time. I used an SEO module that did not work well either, and so my categories had to be renamed. Some of the site has been indexed, and thousands of links have been followed by googlebot. After my site dropped in ranking a few pages for duplicate content problems I decided today to move the catalog to the server root. I just recently found out as well that the new SEO module I am using from MagneticOne has a bug where it inserts the canonical tag into every category and product. I had used a modification in index.php and product_info.php that inserts the product name into the title, but for some reason I am still getting the same duplicate content problem (weeks after) Duplicate titles, descriptions even though they are not identical, similar but not identical. So after all of this I am stuck wondering, how do I recover from this? I'm waiting for MagneticOne to fix their bug issue which I believe should help me some. Does anyone know of a way to display the category name and product properly in the title? Should I be removing the pages that were already indexed in google since they would all return 404's now? Any guidance is appreciated. Really you should be redirecting with a 301 header every single currently indexed url to the url that is now current. How easy or difficult this is depends on whether data can be extracted from the old urls that would allow automatic redirection to the new. Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work.
NodsDorf Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 In my many years of posting here, always listen to FWR Media. Major contributor to this platform and wealth of knowledge.
christianbright Posted May 23, 2010 Author Posted May 23, 2010 Well the SEO module from MagneticOne works quite well and has done all that USU5 + header tags contributions do here. It just has a bug with the canonical tag which I'm waiting for them to fix. My URLs look good, but now I'm concerned about redirects. What's the best way to round up all the indexed pages? Google webmaster tools doesn't seem to show them all. I've found content in google search results for my page that are from when I first opened the site and got crawled. Is it possible to tell a bot to use a description for a certain page without using the noopd meta tag? I've noticed there is a site similar to mine that has its meta description for the index, but in the source there is no noopd...And that content is nowhere to be read on the page itself.
♥FWR Media Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 Well the SEO module from MagneticOne works quite well and has done all that USU5 + header tags contributions do here. It just has a bug with the canonical tag which I'm waiting for them to fix. My URLs look good, but now I'm concerned about redirects. What's the best way to round up all the indexed pages? Google webmaster tools doesn't seem to show them all. I've found content in google search results for my page that are from when I first opened the site and got crawled. Is it possible to tell a bot to use a description for a certain page without using the noopd meta tag? I've noticed there is a site similar to mine that has its meta description for the index, but in the source there is no noopd...And that content is nowhere to be read on the page itself. Ok then you're not being clear .. show an example of the urls causing the duplicate content? Why is it wrong to include canonical elements on all categories and products? it is not wrong at all, it just has to be the CORRECT canonical tag. Is the move to root the issue? that would cause all uris to be different. Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work.
christianbright Posted May 23, 2010 Author Posted May 23, 2010 These problems arose around a week ago. I actually just moved the store to the server root today. My current setup is this..."noindex, nofollow" in product_info.php because I do not want products indexed, or the bot to try to follow the link further. I only want my main page, and categories to be indexed. The reason being I only have virtual items for MMO games. The products (which are actually amounts of currency available to purchase) don't matter at all. Only the name of the game, and its servers do. I have also restricted access in robots.txt to disallow sort, action, language and currency. I don't have product notifications, or other languages and so on. The sort=1 seemed to be causing the most trouble with duplicate content problem in the HTML suggestions area of webmaster tools. Even now I still have this problem: Pages with duplicate meta descriptions Site.net offers exceptional MMO Services for the greatest titles! Keyword, keyword, etc... /buy/aoc-gold-us-wiccana /buy/index.php/cPath/18_95_96_98_131 /buy/wow-gold-eu-argent-dawn-alliance /buy/wow-gold-us-crushridge-alliance /buy/wow-gold-us-dragonblight-horde The description I am able to change myself using the SEO module I have. None of them read the same. They all begin with Site.net offers exceptional MMO Services for the greatest titles! Then include keywords for that particular category (game in this case). How different do they have to be? Also I have no idea where that cPath url has come from, but it just redirects to the index page. Should I be adding restrictions for cPath as well so they don't get indexed? I am also having these duplicate title issues: Pages with duplicate title tags Site.net | MMO Services | Cheap Gold, Safe, and Guaranteed /buy/index.php/cPath/18_95_96_98_131 /buy/product_info.php/cPath/18_22_23_95_136/products_id/133 /buy/product_info.php/products_id/6104 /buy/product_info.php/products_id/6345 /buy/product_info.php/products_id/6445 /buy/product_info.php/products_id/6702 /buy/product_info.php/products_id/6761 Again I have no idea why there is a cPath link in there. With the new "noindex, nofollow" robot tag I think the product_info.php should disappear the next time my site is crawled, correct? That is the ONE thing I cannot do with this SEO module is set individual title tags. So I found this hack through a search and used it (because I didn't want to install a header tags contribution for just title tags and I'm a novice at php): <title><?php $category_name_query = tep_db_query("select categories_name from " . TABLE_CATEGORIES_DESCRIPTION . " where categories_id = " . (int)$current_category_id . " and language_id = " . (int)$languages_id); $category_name = tep_db_fetch_array($category_name_query); if ((int)$current_category_id <= 0) {echo'Site.net | MMO Services | Cheap Gold, Safe, and Guaranteed';} else echo 'Site.net | Buy ' . $category_name['categories_name'] . ' | Cheap, Safe, and Guaranteed'; ?></title> I put that in both the index.php and product_info.php files. So in theory they should be unique, as it displays the game name or category in the title. But google tells it they are duplicates. The other problem I have with that is...it only goes one level deep. I would like to have both the game and server (category and subcat) in the title but I do not know how to accomplish that. As for the canonical tags...they all appear in this format: <link rel="canonical" href="http://site.net/buy/wow-us/wow-gold" > So I am open to your guidance. I understand that I should setup a 301 redirect but there are over 2000 links indexed, and I am not sure how I should use .htaccess to do this with so many items. I hope that makes my problem more clear. I'd really like to get this fixed!
NodsDorf Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I looked at your site. It appears all your descriptions are the same for each product category Aion Areil same as Aion Kinah You can fix this by using the Ultimate SEO / Header Tag contribution. This allows you to set specific title and description for each one of your categories and even products. MagneticOne will also allow you to add these to your import excel sheet for the products. I run a site that sells MMO cd-keys so I understand what you're trying to do.
christianbright Posted May 24, 2010 Author Posted May 24, 2010 They are similiar, but I have different keywords at the end of the description. How much of a difference does it take? Should I be inserting words before the description instead of after? It's a bit confusing how they take content into consideration exactly... Site.net offers exceptional MMO Services for the greatest titles! Cheap Gold, Buy WoW Gold, Cheap WoW Gold, Buy Warcraft Gold, Cheap Warcraft Gold, Buy Aion Kinah, Buy Aion Gold and more. compared to: Site.net offers exceptional MMO Services for Aion Kinah! Buy Aion Kinah, Cheap Aion Kinah, Aion Gold, Buy Aion Gold. Safe, guaranteed, and fast deliveries. I wonder if I can safely use the Ultimate SEO module with my current one. I would only use it for title tags. Anyways thanks for the advice and good to see another MMO player out there!
NodsDorf Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 I use the header tags with Ultimate SEO no problems. Your URL's are working perfectly. It's just the header tags that seem to be off.
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