Google Index whats a good % of pages indexed?

jigga1234 · December 11, 2009

Hi I have 50% of my product pages indexed with Google after submiting them around 2 months ago. I had around 40% accepted straight away and the next 10% within a week. For the last 7-8 weeks the percentage has stayed around 50%.

Q.Is this a good percentage of pages to have?

Q.Does anyone know of osc sites which have 100% or nearly 100% pages indexed is this even possible on any site?

Q.Is it any coincidence that I am finding that the rarer products that I stock are indexed much more than the popular products. (I sell skiing and sailing clothing and equipment and as an example all my Musto or Henri Lloyd products which are very popular do not show up under listings however my Eider ski wear which is very expensive and only stocked by a few outlets gets virtually all the product pages indexed and in good search positions in fact usually 1st page).

Q.Is there a way of me easily finding out which pages are indexed and which are not so I can view the differences and try to make changes to get more pages indexed? (this question has been driving me mad for ages and ages)

Thank you all for your time. :)

npn2531 · December 11, 2009

Hi I have 50% of my product pages indexed with Google after submiting them around 2 months ago. I had around 40% accepted straight away and the next 10% within a week. For the last 7-8 weeks the percentage has stayed around 50%.

Q.Is this a good percentage of pages to have?

Q.Does anyone know of osc sites which have 100% or nearly 100% pages indexed is this even possible on any site?

Q.Is it any coincidence that I am finding that the rarer products that I stock are indexed much more than the popular products. (I sell skiing and sailing clothing and equipment and as an example all my Musto or Henri Lloyd products which are very popular do not show up under listings however my Eider ski wear which is very expensive and only stocked by a few outlets gets virtually all the product pages indexed and in good search positions in fact usually 1st page).

Q.Is there a way of me easily finding out which pages are indexed and which are not so I can view the differences and try to make changes to get more pages indexed? (this question has been driving me mad for ages and ages)

Thank you all for your time. :)

You should sign up for Google analytics. That's where Google will tell you exactly what pages on your site they list. You can also submit to Google a single page as well as your entire site, in your case a specific product, and in fact Google Analytics will give you a bit of code you can put on that single page, that will allow them to track that page and keep statistics for you for that page.

http://www.google.com/analytics/

jigga1234 · December 11, 2009

Thank you for the information.

I already have Google analytics however it only gives me a number of pages that it has indexed in my case 971 out of 1760 however I do not know how to view a list where it states which pages are indexed and which pages are not ( it just shows all my Urls to all my pages????)

Is this something that is possible with Analytics and am I just missing something?

Thanks again.

npn2531 · December 12, 2009

It actually webmaster tools. Sign on to your account and then go to:

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home

There is lots of info there, pretty much on the top level or two, from Google about how they are indexing your site, and any difficulties, etc.

jigga1234 · December 12, 2009

It actually webmaster tools. Sign on to your account and then go to:

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/home

There is lots of info there, pretty much on the top level or two, from Google about how they are indexing your site, and any difficulties, etc.

Lol I have webmaster tools to again all this does is gives you a complete list of all the products that you have in your products sitemap.

I have never been able to split these results into indexed and non indexed pages.

npn2531 · December 12, 2009

Lol I have webmaster tools to again all this does is gives you a complete list of all the products that you have in your products sitemap.

I have never been able to split these results into indexed and non indexed pages.

Yes I see what you mean, it really only gives you a list of 'followed' and 'not followed' which I have assumed meant indexed.

jigga1234 · December 16, 2009

Yes I see what you mean, it really only gives you a list of 'followed' and 'not followed' which I have assumed meant indexed.

Can you tell me where I can find the "followed" and "not followed" pages as I have never found this whilst looking through the options?

thanks.

Jack_mcs · December 16, 2009

Hi I have 50% of my product pages indexed with Google after submiting them around 2 months ago. I had around 40% accepted straight away and the next 10% within a week. For the last 7-8 weeks the percentage has stayed around 50%.

Q.Is this a good percentage of pages to have?

Q.Does anyone know of osc sites which have 100% or nearly 100% pages indexed is this even possible on any site?

Q.Is it any coincidence that I am finding that the rarer products that I stock are indexed much more than the popular products. (I sell skiing and sailing clothing and equipment and as an example all my Musto or Henri Lloyd products which are very popular do not show up under listings however my Eider ski wear which is very expensive and only stocked by a few outlets gets virtually all the product pages indexed and in good search positions in fact usually 1st page).

Q.Is there a way of me easily finding out which pages are indexed and which are not so I can view the differences and try to make changes to get more pages indexed? (this question has been driving me mad for ages and ages)

Thank you all for your time. :)

There's no easy way to tell what 100% is on a properly setup shop since pages will be indexed in ways you handn't thought of. A typical shop, in my experieince, will have between 500 and 1,000 pages indexed, while 2,000 is not uncommon.

To see what pages are indexed, so to google and type in site:your_domain.com

npn2531 · December 16, 2009

Can you tell me where I can find the "followed" and "not followed" pages as I have never found this whilst looking through the options?

thanks.

I should be more careful in writing. There is a 'not followed' listing, but not a 'followed' listing. Look in:

www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dashboard . It will be listed under 'crawl errors' on the front page of the dashboard.

jigga1234 · December 17, 2009

I should be more careful in writing. There is a 'not followed' listing, but not a 'followed' listing. Look in:

www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dashboard . It will be listed under 'crawl errors' on the front page of the dashboard.

Thank you but I have no crawl errors I have no errors reported at all. :)

I have used the site: option on google I was just hoping there might have been a much nicer way of viewing pages indexed and not. Surely Google could do an easy comparison to your product site map and be able to say all these product urls are indexed all these are not ( now get to work making your content better and more unique )

I have nearly 1000 pages indexed now so I suppose thats a good thing I just wish it was the other 1000 products that I have and not this 1000 :(

Cant win em all.

Jack_mcs · December 17, 2009

I'm curious as to why all of the concern? Will knowing that you have 50% of your pages indexed help in some way? Your time would be better spent, in my opinion, in optimizing your site and the rest will take care of itself. Installing a meta tag contribution, I recommend Header Tags SEO, your products and categories should do well in the listings. Installing contributions like google sitemap XML SEO, Sitemap SEO and All Products SEO will help speed up the process of getting your pages found.

jigga1234 · December 17, 2009

I'm curious as to why all of the concern? Will knowing that you have 50% of your pages indexed help in some way? Your time would be better spent, in my opinion, in optimizing your site and the rest will take care of itself. Installing a meta tag contribution, I recommend Header Tags SEO, your products and categories should do well in the listings. Installing contributions like google sitemap XML SEO, Sitemap SEO and All Products SEO will help speed up the process of getting your pages found.

Thanks for the response.

I have all the contributions that you have suggested installed.

You say I would be better spending my time optimizing my site I totally agree however optimize how? I have done a lot of the things that have been suggested on the OSC forums have followed numerous advice on SEO forums have updated my tags meta, keyword and description have <h1> down to <h6> in my product content have many links both to and from my site post on blogs forums etc all related to the business that I am in, we submit to pretty much all directories and some specialist industry directories too and yet there still seems to be no hard and fast rule as to why some of my pages are not indexed.

The reason I would like to know which pages are indexed and which are not easiliy is quite straight forward. No one knows exactly why Google will choose to index one page over another is it tags, content, links, uniqueness, relevance, number of similar pages other sites having better pages the list goes on and on? I may be being a bit wet behind the ears here but my thinking is that if I can compare an indexed page from one manufacturer with a non indexed page from the same manufacturer I thought I would be able to look at the two pages and see if there was anything standing out as to why one is indexed and one not.

I would not be as concerened if all the pages that were indexed were my best selling products but they seem to be mainly the products that I very rarely get orders for. All of my popular products are no where to be found. Does anyone know if Google has a limit to the number of pages it will index on a subject eg. If I create a page for Apple I pods even if it is the best optimized page out there will Google just go we have thousands of these pages we dont need another dont index? Or is it really down to how you optimize that will get you results?

Thanks for your time.

Jack_mcs · December 17, 2009

The reason I would like to know which pages are indexed and which are not easiliy is quite straight forward. No one knows exactly why Google will choose to index one page over another is it tags, content, links, uniqueness, relevance, number of similar pages other sites having better pages the list goes on and on? I may be being a bit wet behind the ears here but my thinking is that if I can compare an indexed page from one manufacturer with a non indexed page from the same manufacturer I thought I would be able to look at the two pages and see if there was anything standing out as to why one is indexed and one not.

I would not be as concerened if all the pages that were indexed were my best selling products but they seem to be mainly the products that I very rarely get orders for. All of my popular products are no where to be found. Does anyone know if Google has a limit to the number of pages it will index on a subject eg. If I create a page for Apple I pods even if it is the best optimized page out there will Google just go we have thousands of these pages we dont need another dont index? Or is it really down to how you optimize that will get you results?

If you are referring to the links returned when you do a search on google for a keyword, google only shows 1,000 results. So if the page for that keyword is at 1,001, it won't show up but it doesn't mean it is not indexed. Using the site: option I mentioned is the only way, that I know of, to tell if the links are indexed. As to how they index a page, that is well known. It is due to the SEO for that page. Every page has to be optimized for the keyword of that page. If your pages aren't showing up, you need to look more closely at them. It may be that they are not optimized but it could also be because the competition for that keyword is too high. Please post a link to one of your popular products that is not indexed and I will take a quick look at it, if you like.

jigga1234 · December 17, 2009

If you are referring to the links returned when you do a search on google for a keyword, google only shows 1,000 results. So if the page for that keyword is at 1,001, it won't show up but it doesn't mean it is not indexed. Using the site: option I mentioned is the only way, that I know of, to tell if the links are indexed. As to how they index a page, that is well known. It is due to the SEO for that page. Every page has to be optimized for the keyword of that page. If your pages aren't showing up, you need to look more closely at them. It may be that they are not optimized but it could also be because the competition for that keyword is too high. Please post a link to one of your popular products that is not indexed and I will take a quick look at it, if you like.

Thank you Jack

examples. Google search Henri Lloyd Mirage Jacket Google search results

results nothing.

Google search Henri Lloyd Mirage Jacket Mountain and Marine Google search results

Results 1st on the 1st page but two category pages are indexed no product page.

Here is a link to a popular product page that currently is not being indexedmountain & marine product link

However here is an example of a product that does work?

Google search Eider Beylem Fleece. Google search results

Results 1st on 1st page with the correct product page indexed.

One of my more unpopular product pages that is already indexed.

I will wait to hear your suggestions thank you again.

npn2531 · December 17, 2009

It can be useful to know how many of your pages, and which ones, are being indexed by Google. You are actually optimizing the individual pages on your site, as much your site as a whole. Google search results are for individual pages. And it's difficult to know exactly why some pages show up in the search results. Thus the 'shotgun approach', getting as many indexed as possible is best. For example, I discovered, in fact last week, my 'contact.php' was showing up in one of my search phrases, rather than the pages I wanted. So I'm going to optimize my contact page for that result, by changing the metadata, and putting some content and product info, and more obvious links to products, on the contact page.

Also, if you see that a large number of pages are not being indexed, or at least not showing up in search results, then you know there something about those pages that needs addressing. The un-indexed pages represent an opportunity. It is helpful to know which pages show up in what search results, so you can optimize different pages differently. Or maybe those pages are showing up in search results, with keyword phrases, you haven't thought of. Google will help you discover what those phrases might be.

Jigga1234, you can take a product page, like your Henri Lloyd Mirage Jacket product page, or a product page that seems to be ignored, and set it up in google analytics as a separate report, just like you did with your entire site. It can have it's own Google tracking snippet (put it in the body of the page), and you can get more focused tracking info on that page in your Google Analytics dashboard that may answer your questions. Plus you can be reasonably sure that page will be indexed.

Jack_mcs · December 17, 2009

Thank you Jack

examples. Google search Henri Lloyd Mirage Jacket Google search results

results nothing.

You are making a couple of mistakes. First, as mentioned, don't confuse a page being indexed with a page not showing. The page you mentioned is actually indexed - twice - as can be seen here. The second link shouldn't be there with Header Tags SEO installed. You need to verify you have the latest version installed and the canonical tag enabled and working. That is obviously not preventing the page from indexing but it may be stopping it from showing well.

The second problem is that you are telling the search engines the page is optimized for "Henri Lloyd Mirage Jacket y00147," which is what you have it set up for. But you are searching the listings for "Henri Lloyd Mirage Jacket." While they are very close, they are two separate keywords and the search engines will rank them differently. If you use the actual name you are using for the search, you will see that page is actually indexed at around position 24 on google, as can be seen here.

npn2531 · December 17, 2009

Is your site complete? When I go to the Henry Lloyd jacket page, or any page on your site, the center section is blank.

You metadata is also kind of sparse. You need to have consistency between the title, meta descriptions and with the content before you are going to have that page rank well. For example whatever you have in your title needs to also appear in the content, in a text link, and on a <h> tag, img alt tag, etc. Get that done and you'll bump up a few notches. I didn't see a Google tracking code on the page either. Get that Google tracking code installed and Google you some answers.

jigga1234 · December 18, 2009

Is your site complete? When I go to the Henry Lloyd jacket page, or any page on your site, the center section is blank.

You metadata is also kind of sparse. You need to have consistency between the title, meta descriptions and with the content before you are going to have that page rank well. For example whatever you have in your title needs to also appear in the content, in a text link, and on a <h> tag, img alt tag, etc. Get that done and you'll bump up a few notches. I didn't see a Google tracking code on the page either. Get that Google tracking code installed and Google you some answers.

Which browser do you use? I have no problem viewing my page and also the product information of every page and we are currently getting 10-15 orders a day.

I put the google tracking code in my application_top.php as I believe it is included in every page on my site. Is that a reason it is not showing up in the page source?

I am now updating Jacks contrinution and will follow all the advice given to me on here.

Terrakota · December 18, 2009

I have the same thing. Rare products are on first pages in google, popular - not to be found anywhere close. The reason I think is simple. Popular products are sold, described, reviewed, discussed on many, many internet pages. And those sites that get the most visits from people get to be listed before you, because google thinks them to be most useful to its users. And if the product is rare, then there isn't much information on internet about it - so you get to be on the first pages.

burt · December 18, 2009

I have the same thing. Rare products are on first pages in google, popular - not to be found anywhere close. The reason I think is simple. Popular products are sold, described, reviewed, discussed on many, many internet pages. And those sites that get the most visits from people get to be listed before you, because google thinks them to be most useful to its users. And if the product is rare, then there isn't much information on internet about it - so you get to be on the first pages.

Makes perfect sense.

Terrakota · December 18, 2009

There is one more thing, actually. Google values unique content. So, if your description of the product is the same as everybody's else, then there is not much value to it from the google stand point. But if you also add something else, like a consumer report on how great (or not so great) this product is, and a more detailed description, then it might help.

npn2531 · December 19, 2009

Which browser do you use? I have no problem viewing my page and also the product information of every page and we are currently getting 10-15 orders a day.

I put the google tracking code in my application_top.php as I believe it is included in every page on my site. Is that a reason it is not showing up in the page source?

I am now updating Jacks contrinution and will follow all the advice given to me on here.

Your center section is not showing up on Safari. I'm using snow leopard on Mac and have the latest version of safari. Also your google tracking code is not showing up. I would put it in the header or footer instead of application top.

jigga1234 · December 21, 2009

Your center section is not showing up on Safari. I'm using snow leopard on Mac and have the latest version of safari. Also your google tracking code is not showing up. I would put it in the header or footer instead of application top.

I also have noticed that I get the same problem with Google Chrome. The page is there ( I think you will have to just scroll to the right to view it) you do have to do this in Chrome. I cannot understand why this is doing this and I have just taken the view that I have more important things to try to do before I check that I can be seen by the 12% of Safari and Chrome users ( I know this is bad however I am doing all of the web stuff on my own and have to prioritise, I hope all the chrome users have either firefox or Ie as a back up browser and therefore I only lose the 3.8% of Mac customers, but it is on a list of jobs to do)

Terrakota........

Thank you very much for yuor advice I will look into changing my content and try to make it more unique.

With regard to my Google code it is not in my application_top file I have a .html file that Google gave me placed in my root as per their instructions

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