tlyczko Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 which weblog/blog or CMS apps can be EASILY integrated with osC??? does/should one integrate osC into the blog/CMS?? OR does/should one integrate the blog/CMS into osC?? reason i ask is that i would like to eventually have an osC site with articles/commentary about various topics...i know that reviews are already available... don't think i want a forum because it's hard to get/keep people involved... i would like to be able to have regular commentaries plus reader commentaries, probably moderated commentaries at that... i don't know enough about wikis to know if that is what i would want/need. other criteria: it has to be readily accessible for a PHP NEWBIE (have done asp work so far) and SUPPORTED...don't want the app/support to disappear!!! thank you for reading this!!! :) tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 For ideas seach the forum on cms, phpnuke and postnuke, to start. Lots of ideas. Personally I will be integrating with phpNuke to use it for support and community. Also, go to google and seach on oscommerce and any of the terms above, you may be surprized what you see. The most common usage right now is to install the cms and make the two applications look alike. Integrating the databases is a challenge, but I personally don't have a problem making people sign in separately in the shopping section since that implies higher security. [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliano Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 altough this is not exactly what are you looking for.. newsdesk is a great contribution when you speak about news and articles... cheers emiliano patagonia, argentina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Any example sites? (of newsdesk?) [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seCret steVe Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 you can use the easy to use Mambo Server from www.mamboserver.com This is an easy to use CMS system. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Well secret steve, I'll try anything once. Have you integrated osC with this cms? debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seCret steVe Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 i have yet to intergrate it but i do know of someone that has....or has claimed that they have....although i have no contact information for that person. My best suggestion is to take a look at the coding and see what can be done about it. Im not one to actually know about how to go about intergrating CMS's.....although i will say if you are looking for a CMS this is a very nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I'd need a url to look at first before I invest 15-20 hours checking on code for a new cms. Let me know if you find out one. I currently use both phpNuke and PostNuke and "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is my motto so far. If this is truly do-able I need to see it :) debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seCret steVe Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 what is your link so that i can take a look at what you got..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 At http://coolcatsites.net you can see phpNuke with an rss newsfeed from a store that is in the Butterfly Gifts and Cards box, and if you click on Cool Cat Stuff in the header you will see the oscommerce store that will be working on that site. At http://4fundraising.org/phoenix you will see PostNuke, again with an rss feed from Butterfly and the store associated with that site is at http://4fundraising.org/phoenix/catalog I have not updated that site in several days while I have been working on other things, so the structure of the categories is a bit out of whack right now. I'll be focusing on that once I upgrade all my stores to the new Loaded 5 with my own customizations. Oh yeah, and there is http://coolpetsites.com running phpNuke 6.5 (the latest release) with several newsfeeds and other stuff. Debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlyczko Posted February 20, 2003 Author Share Posted February 20, 2003 my $.02 -- mambo does look nice but i got the impression that they charge for some parts of it...correct me if i am wrong... it would be nice if someone started a thread about integrating osC with other CMSes -- and to what level -- since some people, like me, would want the additional CMS-based content to be secondary to the store offerings, whereas others would put the CMS-based content on an equal level...really depends on one's site purpose and goals... :) tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlyczko Posted February 20, 2003 Author Share Posted February 20, 2003 At http://coolcatsites.net you can see phpNuke with an rss At http://4fundraising.org/phoenix you will see PostNuke, again with an Oh yeah, and there is http://coolpetsites.com running phpNuke 6.5 (the Debbie various stuff snipped out... questions: how long did it take you with these sites to get the *nuke stuff mixed together with the osC stuff, or do you basically treat them as more or less separate apps -- and why did you pick those particular *nuke apps?? looks like a lot of site maintenance to keep it fresh... :) thank you!!! :) tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Ah, that's the beauty of CMS, I DON'T do a lot of site maintenence to keep it fresh. There is a contribution that allows you to create an rss newsfeed from your store. Both nuke applications have the ability to build blocks that access rss newsfeed. People add content themselves, go in once or twice a day and approve submissions. I can also set a user level so they can approve there own submissions. You can also enter all your personal news items at once, like on the weekend, and tell the program when to post it. phpNuke 6.5 has phpBB built in, one data base for nuke users and phpbb users. CoolCatSites hasn't been upgraded to 6.5 because I like the theme and the new version has a different structure and the current themes need to be updated. I used the stylesheet from that them to set up the stylesheet for the osCommerce portion of the site. Both nukes also have a Gallery application that integrates with them, again you can see it at coolcatsites, by clicking on Gallery. Because my own personal sales are my photography, I want to integrate osc with this to showcase my photographs and other artwork available. I am currently attempting to figure out how to pull in the product page links without having to build them manually, since I have several hundred photos ready to add and several thousand once I have finished scanning. I have both nukes on separate sites to see how they each perform. I will concentrate on one or the other at some point, but they each have features (add ons from supporters) that I am interested in, but for right now I am going to keep them as is. I am not just building stores, I am attempting to build communities and part of a community is the "shopping center". The forums on the main site will have sections for customer service, I can use the private messaging and the built in contact form for customer support. I think that is enough info to put you to sleep for a while! Debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guanche Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 it would be nice if someone started a thread about integrating osC with other CMSes -- and to what level -- since some people, like me, would want the additional CMS-based content to be secondary to the store offerings, whereas others would put the CMS-based content on an equal level...really depends on one's site purpose and goals... :) tom My ideal site would be a good mix of OSC shopping cart (priority #1, being to make money) with CMS like articles (linking to products), calendar, forum, and other useful nuke modules (I like post nuke) but phpnuke or other would work as well to create a sense of community and usefulness for follow-up after the sale. I am however unfamiliar with how to integrate the two or the best solution as I know it now is to actually have the nuke site and OSC site on two seperate db but have the designs match up most perfectly. Is there anyone out there who can write a good tutorial on how best to go about making the CMS and OSC templates look the same? An excellent example of what I'd be looking to do is http://www.thread.co.nz (this is based off OSC 2.1 for the shop and I think a very early version of phpnuke for the MAG . I think this is very slick. :) Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I love that threads site that is a really nice layout, but there is no real way of knowing how they have done it :-( I have 'modded' another contribution osCwrapper which allows you to wrap your own content into the middle of osC it should not be to hard to introduce some d/b functionality into (at the moment it only displays a list of links) I updated it to work with Ians Loaded snapshot so you also get the benefit of the thema release too. I will be posting it to the conributions in the next few days but this mod sort of conflicts with the already available CMS module This is written in german (the code) not the content, and while I was able to get it up and running I did have problems with it, so will be looking at that to, if I can combine both we'll probably have the makings of a simple CMS system. Over the next few weeks I intend to really get back into osC I abondoned here for a while, but it's really become a valuable community so I'll be aiming to spend more time here. Keep the faith you 'belivers' :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 There are a number of sites that use this approach, here are a few, I hope the site owners don't mind my posting their links. Please don't place test orders or create accounts that you won't be using since these are live shops and live nuke communities. This one is similar to mine, he has a community with a store: http://onebusycat.com/ http://onebusycat.com/shop/default.php And this one is a shop with post nuke as a support system: http://www.puddled.co.uk/default.php I haven't seen this one in a while, it looks like he has things pretty well integrated, so it might be a good idea to contact him about how he did his modifications, if he has time to spare :) Also, go to google and do a search on oscommerce and phpnuke or postnuke and you will see some incredible sites. There are many creative people out there and they don't all know or care about these forums. I'll probably look again this weekend, I want to get osC modified to where I want it, then work on the integration. Integrating Gallery is actually my priority but if I can accomplish that easier by integrating the whole thing then that is what I will concentrate on. Debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I have 'modded' another contribution osCwrapper which allows you to wrap your own content into the middle of osC it should not be to hard to introduce some d/b functionality into (at the moment it only displays a list of links) I updated it to work with Ians Loaded snapshot so you also get the benefit of the thema release too. I will be posting it to the conributions in the next few days but this mod sort of conflicts with the already available CMS module This is written in german (the code) not the content, and while I was able to get it up and running I did have problems with it, so will be looking at that to, if I can combine both we'll probably have the makings of a simple CMS system. I don't think your contribution conflicts with the other one at all. The nuke sites and the way I need to use them don't apply to either your contribution or the other cms contribution, but they are very valuable for people that need to add content pages or links pages to their sites. I forgot to include that the nukes also have links sections and upload/download file capabilities, for those that need them. The nukes and xoop and the other community CMS applications may have more features than most store owners need. The contributions above may be all you need to integrate content into your site. I need heavy visitor interaction, which is different from just adding content. debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seCret steVe Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 okies.....then i think it would prolly be better to stay with what you have untill there is more documentation for mamboserver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seCret steVe Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 mambo does not charge for anything....everything is open source......the company that runs them has some things for sale....if you wish to buy them....but the CMS is not for sale....it is all free and legal and under the GPL License Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Mambo looks promising, but what are the differences between it and the existing CMS programs? The nukes and xoops and phpMyWebsite and others all have hundreds of free themes and contributions and support sites. Debbie [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlyczko Posted February 21, 2003 Author Share Posted February 21, 2003 phpNuke 6.5 has phpBB built in, one data base for nuke users and phpbb users. CoolCatSites hasn't been upgraded to 6.5 I have both nukes on separate sites to see how they each perform. I will concentrate on one or the other at some point, but they each have but approximately how long time-wise did it take you to get osC and your *nukes to look and function the way you wanted?? thank you!! :) tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Using copy and replace for the styelsheets, about 5 minutes :) [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseigel Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Using brute force and a complete design overhaul to match my postnuke site...about a week. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxly Posted February 21, 2003 Share Posted February 21, 2003 Your post nuke site isn't using a standard theme either :-) So that had to take time too! Looking good, btw! :wink: [no external urls in signatures please, kthanks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seCret steVe Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 with mambo the site look is simple and easy to create a template....it is just one simple file unlike the nuke sites....everything is completly orgainized as i feel that nukes or xoops are disorgainzed even in the code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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