Installation of the shop for SEO

[volk]

Hello ALL,

 

I'm installing this shop and now thinking what is it better to install it to the root or to the root/catalog for the SEO steps in the future.

What is it better to have an intro page or direct a shop page?

 

 

Thanks

Serg

[Jack_mcs]

It should go in the root when possible.

 

Jack

[web-project]

It should go in the root when possible.

 

Jack

 

it doesn't matter, if the SEO properly done.

[Jack_mcs]

No, actually it does. The search engines will not spend as much time on deep searches. By installing into a sub-directory, it causes the deep searches to stop quicker than they normally would. Having the proper contributions installed will reduce that time but it will still be a problem.

 

Jack

[volk]

No, actually it does. The search engines will not spend as much time on deep searches. By installing into a sub-directory, it causes the deep searches to stop quicker than they normally would. Having the proper contributions installed will reduce that time but it will still be a problem.

 

Jack

 

 

Thanks you ALL for the answers....

 

1. I have seen some pages which were placed on the first place in google search. They have an intro page with text description and link to the shop.

You mean it is still not betterer way to use an intro page?

 

2. what about optimization if I have more than 1 language? Should I still put it in the root...

[Jack_mcs]

Thanks you ALL for the answers....

 

1. I have seen some pages which were placed on the first place in google search. They have an intro page with text description and link to the shop.

You mean it is still not betterer way to use an intro page?

 

2. what about optimization if I have more than 1 language? Should I still put it in the root...

Above all else, the site should be coded to provide your customer the best experience and most information. If you need an entrance page, then you should have one. It is rare, in my opinion, where one is needed though. And when they are used, they are usually not setup correctly. If there is enough text and links on the entrance page that reference the shop, it can work - it is just more difficult.

 

I'm not sure I understand the relationship between language and the root. If your shop is setup for different languages, each language will have to be optimized but they will all be in the root, or not if you use an entrance page.

 

Jack

[jholdersatx]

No, actually it does. The search engines will not spend as much time on deep searches. By installing into a sub-directory, it causes the deep searches to stop quicker than they normally would. Having the proper contributions installed will reduce that time but it will still be a problem.

 

Jack

 

"deep" is qualitive, isn't it? I mean, sure 5 years ago possibly deep meant 4 directories, but in the advent of technology, I'd really doubt it'd discount you for being one, or maybe 2 subcategories in. Especially if the sub directory that it's inside of is relevant to the SEO at hand.

 

If you were a computer, and you were trying to check relevancy between two links, which would you see being more relevant to a search of.. say.. shoe store:

 

www.jack-shoes.com/

www.jill-shoes.com/shoes/

 

..?

[Jack_mcs]

"deep" is qualitive, isn't it? I mean, sure 5 years ago possibly deep meant 4 directories, but in the advent of technology, I'd really doubt it'd discount you for being one, or maybe 2 subcategories in. Especially if the sub directory that it's inside of is relevant to the SEO at hand.

 

If you were a computer, and you were trying to check relevancy between two links, which would you see being more relevant to a search of.. say.. shoe store:

 

www.jack-shoes.com/

www.jill-shoes.com/shoes/

 

..?

No, deep searches still applies today. It has nothing to do with current technology. Five years ago there were far few sites than now. Estimates put the number of servers google has in use now around a half-million with another 100,000 new ones being installed every quarter. They are doing that to keep up with the number of new sites. When they scan a site, they use different types of bots. Some are deep scan ones but many times they are not. The quick scan bots are designed to get in, take a look at what they can in a certain amount of time. The less they can see in that time, the less that gets updated. So, yes, directory levels make a difference.

 

Using keywords in the url doesn't have much affect nowadays. It will help a little but the loss due to the deeper level will probably outweigh it, or make the gain null. Besides, if you are targeting shoes, as in your example, the keywords should be on the home page for best results.

 

Jack

[StingRay54]

No, deep searches still applies today. It has nothing to do with current technology. Five years ago there were far few sites than now. Estimates put the number of servers google has in use now around a half-million with another 100,000 new ones being installed every quarter. They are doing that to keep up with the number of new sites. When they scan a site, they use different types of bots. Some are deep scan ones but many times they are not. The quick scan bots are designed to get in, take a look at what they can in a certain amount of time. The less they can see in that time, the less that gets updated. So, yes, directory levels make a difference.

 

Using keywords in the url doesn't have much affect nowadays. It will help a little but the loss due to the deeper level will probably outweigh it, or make the gain null. Besides, if you are targeting shoes, as in your example, the keywords should be on the home page for best results.

 

Jack

 

I have a shared Linux hosting account and I can have unlimited Domains. Each domain would be in a separate directory/folder and the domain name points to that folder. Is now that considered the root directory for that domain and not the actual top level root /? For example I want to host 2 sites from my virtual server. My store will point to /oscommerce and a FREE stuff site domain name will point to the folder /savewareworkspsace . My control panel lets me add on the domains that I purchased from same host provider so it handles all the folder creation and domain name forwarding. My question really is for the robot.txt and sitemap.xml file I am told has to go into the root directory for a robot to follow. Dose it find the site from the domain name and so considers the folder it points to the root directory?

 

I knew HTML, converting my site to PHP and learning that, now it seems I have to learn SEO 1st!

[Jack_mcs]

You should be using redirects so that the separate domain names never reference a sub-directory. The robots file goes in the root of the domain name for that site. So if siteA is located in the siteA directory and it is setup so that it can be reached by http://www.siteA.com/, then the robots file for it will go into the siteA directory so that it can be reached at http://www.siteA.com/robots.txt. If you have it setup so that you reach siteA by going to http://www.main_domain.com/siteA/, then that is considered one site and robots file goes in the root of http://www.main_domain.com/.

 

Jack

[StingRay54]

You should be using redirects so that the separate domain names never reference a sub-directory. The robots file goes in the root of the domain name for that site. So if siteA is located in the siteA directory and it is setup so that it can be reached by http://www.siteA.com/, then the robots file for it will go into the siteA directory so that it can be reached at http://www.siteA.com/robots.txt. If you have it setup so that you reach siteA by going to http://www.main_domain.com/siteA/, then that is considered one site and robots file goes in the root of http://www.main_domain.com/.

 

Jack

 

 

Redirects?

 

I use that cpanel and go into my manager to add a domain name and it states that the / is my root, I guess htdocs and if I want it in a subdirectory to put /filename and it will make the directory for me if it not exist already. Not sure what you mean but I don't have people going to http://www.main_domain.com/siteA to get there, just want www.main_domain.com to go to the folder in the root directory and look for index.htm when they type www.main_domain.com, then I put the robot.txt in that folder. I am trying to find out if SE will index a folder, thinking it is the root if my domain name for site A points to folder A and doman name for Site B points to folder for site B. Will I have to forward that to the www.siteA.com/Afolder and mask it or something or dose C panel take care of that for me with DNS?

[Jack_mcs]

If you use the AddOn option in CPanel, then when someone visits one of the other domain names, it is treated as a completely sepearte site. The search won't know, nor care, that you have some other shop in another directory.

 

Jack