enrique1 Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 I was just browsing through the internet and I encountered a product that resembles many of the characteristics of OSCommerce. Is this a rip-off of our product or what? For example if you go to: http://www.secure.cc/demo_shox/eshox_demo.html Try checking out and and see the similarities. It even says that it is powered by eShox! What do you think guys? btw, if you ask why I have never posted on these forums is because I have found all the answers my self on these very helpful forums. Thanks. --------------------- My Site www.latruck.com
rseigel Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 Looks like a total ripoff to me (with a TON of additions mind you). Templates and some major shipping mod enhancements for starters. Of course not a darned thing was ever contributed back to OSC (assuming here of course that it is indeed based on OSC in the first place). Go get 'em Harald! :shock:
rseigel Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 Ooooooo.....it gets better. They're charging $400 for it! :shock:
Ajeh Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 It would be best rather than jumping to conclusions about sites offering ecommerce programs that look remarkably like osCommerce to email Harald directly rather than start a thread slinging accusations without the facts in hand ... :shock: Thanks.
enrique1 Posted December 27, 2002 Author Posted December 27, 2002 Well it does look to me! What if I just used their stylesheet on my website? http://www.secure.cc/demo_shox/mac_shox/stylesheet.css Sorry I had to share this :twisted: I already notified Harald.
CC Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 LOL Enrique! Well guess there is no more arguement over whether it is or not now... CC.
albertocaso Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 Since osc is licensed GPL I can't see what the problem is if they resell it as GPL and meet other GPL criteria (although I don't know if this is the case). I agree they should at least contribute something back, but they are not obliged to do it if they don't want. Regards Alberto Caso Adaptia Soluciones Integrales
CC Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 I think you have misunderstood what GPL is... Dont you think if OSC were designed to be sold Harald would be doing that??!! GO and have a read and you will see charging $400 for this is very wrong! CC.
Guest Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 Actually, they can charge whatever they want for it. However each person they sell it to would be able to re-distribute it however they want including for free.
burt Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 The GPL gives anyone freedom to do as they like. So long as the purchasers know the script is GPL'd and the licenses are intact, then this is entirely OK. Once the person has purchased the script, they can then do exactly as they want with it - subject to maintaining the GPL license. Thats what the GPL is all about - freedom to do as you wish - not freedom as in free of charge.
albertocaso Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 GO and have a read and you will see charging $400 for this is very wrong! Not that wrong. Having a read... From the Frequently Asked Questions about the GNU GPL at the GNU's site: Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money?Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.) Also of interest: Selling Free Software, found in the Philosophy of the GNU Project section of this same site. And of course, the GPL license itself. Regards :wink: Alberto Caso Adaptia Soluciones Integrales
secure.cc Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 We would like to make it clear that portions of OSCommerce were used in the creation of eShox and mShox products, and that a copy of the GNU General Public License is included with the software: <http://www.secure.cc/demo_shox/mac_shox/license.txt>. Much of the code we did use was not copied verbatum, there were many changes we made for optimization and for better integration with the Mac platform. We also include documentation and support. We would also like to make it clear that we do intend on making contributions to the OSCommerce project. We are open to suggestions as far as what these contributions may be. Many of the better features (such as themes) we support would not be easily integrated into OSCommerce without major revision to the existing OSCommerce code 'backbone'. In the case of themes, it may be easier to use our approach as a model but to re-create it in a more open-source method. Anyhow, we hope that we can bring some benefit to the OSCommerce project. 8) _________________ Ben Harper Secure.CC, Inc. http://www.secure.cc/ _________________
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