fatshoesday Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Hi, I am afraid we are in a bit of a pickle. We have used a content management system called minutemaker (aspx based) for about 2 years now. The provider has decided he no longer wants to work with us and is turning our current site off in May. We had an good idea that this was going ot happen and have an OSCommerce site ready to go. All we need to do is point the domain to it. My question is what is this going to do to our ranking. It is a PR 3 site with good ranking for most of our keywords and phrases. We have tried to maintain the content as much as possible during the switch but I am still worried that it will have a big effect on our positions. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated Thanks Jacqui
cannuck1964 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 as long as the file structure / urls do not change, then you should not be effected by the switch over. The changing of the URLs can be accounted for with the use of htaccess redirects/rewites which if done correctly will not lead to being penalized by SE. cheers, Peter M Peter McGrath ----------------------------- See my Profile (click here) for more information and to contact me for professional osCommerce support that includes SEO development, custom development and security implementation
fatshoesday Posted April 22, 2008 Author Posted April 22, 2008 as long as the file structure / urls do not change, then you should not be effected by the switch over. The changing of the URLs can be accounted for with the use of htaccess redirects/rewites which if done correctly will not lead to being penalized by SE. cheers, Peter M Unfortuately, all the URLs will change. Because fo the different platforms. As I understand it the redirect needs to be done on the our original server, which we do not have access to. All we can access is the CMS. If we can not do anything what is likely to happen!!
cannuck1964 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Unfortuately, all the URLs will change.rewite of the URLs will make them identical to the original. If you want to use redirects and a 301 code, then the SE will rewrite the url and save the new without penalizing your site. Because fo the different platforms. As I understand it the redirect needs to be done on the our original server, which we do not have access to. All we can access is the CMS.No, all of the rewrites would be done on the new server so that they match the old server addresses. cheers, Peter Peter McGrath ----------------------------- See my Profile (click here) for more information and to contact me for professional osCommerce support that includes SEO development, custom development and security implementation
fatshoesday Posted April 22, 2008 Author Posted April 22, 2008 rewite of the URLs will make them identical to the original. If you want to use redirects and a 301 code, then the SE will rewrite the url and save the new without penalizing your site. No, all of the rewrites would be done on the new server so that they match the old server addresses. cheers, Peter Thanks very much for your help so far. Please forgive my ignorance. Is this something that our host does for us of do we need to do it. How do we match up the URLs. Some of the content is in a different place and in a different structure/format. Indeed some has not even been transferred over. The CMS was very restrictive. Thanks again, "clueless" Jax
cannuck1964 Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Is this something that our host does for us of do we need to do it.You would need to do this (or hire someone to do so). How do we match up the URLs.htaccess allows for rewritting of URLs, the pattern matching would need to be looked at and emulated. Some of the content is in a different place and in a different structure/format. Indeed some has not even been transferred over. The CMS was very restrictive.Then some of the SEO wouldbe lost and the developer would need to take into account the missing pages with sometype of redirect to a default page.... cheers, peter Peter McGrath ----------------------------- See my Profile (click here) for more information and to contact me for professional osCommerce support that includes SEO development, custom development and security implementation
Guest Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 who owns the domain name from the site being turned off?
fatshoesday Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 who owns the domain name from the site being turned off? We do!
♥FWR Media Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 We do! If the domain name will stay the same and the directory path stays the same then you may not need .htaccess rewrites. A script could be written, then included, let's say at the top of application_top (assuming the old site used index.php). 301 redirecting the old urls to the new, how hard it would be would depend on the makeup and consistency of the old urls. Too many intangibles and assumptions to make a solid suggestion. Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work.
fatshoesday Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 If the domain name will stay the same and the directory path stays the same then you may not need .htaccess rewrites. A script could be written, then included, let's say at the top of application_top (assuming the old site used index.php). 301 redirecting the old urls to the new, how hard it would be would depend on the makeup and consistency of the old urls. Too many intangibles and assumptions to make a solid suggestion. The Domain name will be the same. I am not sure about the directory path. to be honest I do not even know what the current one looks like. Here is a current URL http://www.fatshoesday.co.uk/content.aspx?...22-85E87C7DE13D and this is what a new URL will look like! http://fatshoesday.co.uk./index.php?cName=crocs-womens-shoes Does this help? Thanks Jacqueline
♥FWR Media Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 The Domain name will be the same. I am not sure about the directory path. to be honest I do not even know what the current one looks like. Here is a current URL http://www.fatshoesday.co.uk/content.aspx?...22-85E87C7DE13D and this is what a new URL will look like! http://fatshoesday.co.uk./index.php?cName=crocs-womens-shoes Does this help? Thanks Jacqueline Yuck and yuck again. 1st yuck is that horrible url from your old shop 2nd yuck is that you're on a WinDoze server. Are your using the really old version of ULTIMATE SEO URLs or another url mod? Do all of the product urls go through file content.aspx? Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work.
fatshoesday Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 Yuck and yuck again. 1st yuck is that horrible url from your old shop 2nd yuck is that you're on a WinDoze server. Are your using the really old version of ULTIMATE SEO URLs or another url mod? Do all of the product urls go through file content.aspx? That does not sound good! Everything to do with content has this type of url. Products start .../product.aspx. We also have a scrolling news window which start ..../news.aspx. I am assuming thing like checkout have a similar structure. I am on a windows server for the new site as well which is why I had to install cname&pname contribution instead of Ultimate! Jax
♥FWR Media Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 That does not sound good! Everything to do with content has this type of url. Products start .../product.aspx. We also have a scrolling news window which start ..../news.aspx. I am assuming thing like checkout have a similar structure. I am on a windows server for the new site as well which is why I had to install cname&pname contribution instead of Ultimate! Jax Vs 2.1b (or something) of USU supports WinDoze, to my knowledge it still works just fine. If we concentrate on the parts that you will need 301 redirecting. So products are ALL product.aspx? What about categories? what else would you need redirected? Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work.
fatshoesday Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 Vs 2.1b (or something) of USU supports WinDoze, to my knowledge it still works just fine. If we concentrate on the parts that you will need 301 redirecting. So products are ALL product.aspx? What about categories? what else would you need redirected? I will have a look at that version. All categories are .../content.aspx?categoryid.... Is that what you mean?
♥FWR Media Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 I will have a look at that version. All categories are .../content.aspx?categoryid.... Is that what you mean? Ok so am I correct in saying that the pages you want 301 redirected are all .. /content.aspx?categoryid= or /product.aspx?productid= Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work.
fatshoesday Posted April 26, 2008 Author Posted April 26, 2008 Ok so am I correct in saying that the pages you want 301 redirected are all .. /content.aspx?categoryid= or /product.aspx?productid= I guess it is both. Don't really know! Really not very clued up I'm afraid. Just trying to protect our ranking as far as possible. Jax
fatshoesday Posted May 8, 2008 Author Posted May 8, 2008 We got IASP rewrite installed on our server, unfortunately I am clueless. The version works with apache regular expressions and .htaccess. I have had a go a writing a rule. Can you let me know what you think? I tried using regular expression and what I am trying to do is redidect every url request that contains /content.aspx (in a URL like this http://www.fatshoesday.co.uk/content.aspx?...A-4CDDD0232596) to /index.php It goes like this Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^fatshoesday\.co\.uk$ [NC] RewriteRule ^content\.aspx.*$ http://www.fatshoesday.co.uk/$1 [R=301,L] What do you think? Will this do what I want it to do? Jax
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