howgo Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Hello, do you know the modded version of oscommerce 2.1 - you can get it from ossuite.org. I think the Administration is very nice. But there is one bad thing, this is Version 2.1. Is there anybody, who updated this to 2.2 I would be very happy if somebody can send it me, or tell me the way to update it. Is it necessary to look at each line of code an have to change them? Thank you Andreas Hannig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamscape Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 it would take a php wiz and hundreds of hours because ossuite completely changed the database structure among other things. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamscape Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 best bet would be to wait for ossuite to release a new version when OSC v2.2 is final The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthrash Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I have talked with the guys that started the OSSuite project and they've done a great job in starting work on an integrated solution for eCommerce, ERP (Accounting) and CRM. The CRM work is in the planning stages but coding will start soon. They basically took the 2.1 stable release and pointed the database to NOLA. NOLA is an Opensource Accounting system, FYI. The end goal is to have a robust solution that will be Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP (LAMP) based and robust enough to actually completely run an entire business front to back, including robust marketing (CRM) applications. We're getting involved with the project and welcome those that want to join in the fray! Ryan Thrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howgo Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 Hello, thx for the feedback. It will take a long time until the ossuite 2.2 release, right ? Then I must use the original version, because i have to develop a website now. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthrash Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Hello, thx for the feedback. It will take a long time until the ossuite 2.2 release, right ? Then I must use the original version, because i have to develop a website now. If you're up against a development deadline, then I'd by far suggest 2.2 straight from the source, so to speak. But then again, if you're looking for a purely stable release, then you need to go with 2.1, now available in 2 flavors. :wink: Ryan Thrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthrash Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 it would take a php wiz and hundreds of hours because ossuite completely changed the database structure among other things. Is there any documentation avaialable as to what the db differences are between 2.1 and 2.2? Thanks! Ryan Thrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Ponce de Leon Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Is there any documentation avaialable as to what the db differences are between 2.1 and 2.2? Thanks! Since you're intending to use OSSuite with 2.1, you better ask the OSSuite guys. Support will not be provided here for other solutions. , osCommerce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthrash Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Since you're intending to use OSSuite with 2.1, you better ask the OSSuite guys. Support will not be provided here for other solutions. I apologize if I offended you in some manner. It sounds that you're upset about OSSuite. I don't understand that, and I'm probably totally off base. OSC is an amazing project and you, the entire development team and all the great contributors deserve a hearty congratulations for work well done. At any rate, I'm not asking for anything more than clarification on the difference in database structures between OSC 2.1 and OSC 2.2, not anything about OSSuite. The ER diagram that exists for 2.2 is very helpful and I just wanted to see if there was one available for 2.1, that's all. From what I understand right now, OSSuite just took 2.1, updated the administration and graphics to make it a little more user friendly and pointed the database queries to integrate seamlessly with ERP/Accounting and CRM. THe end game as I understand it is to give small companies without huge IT budgets a solution that addresses their entire business from front to back. The developers who started OSSuite work with a lot of non-profit organizations that fit that description. I'm still investigating OSSuite (and would like to contribute due to the integration with accounting and CRM), but I'm actually working on implementing OSC 2.2 CVS + contributions as we speak. Ryan Thrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Ponce de Leon Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I apologize if I offended you in some manner. It sounds that you're upset about OSSuite. I don't understand that, and I'm probably totally off base. OSC is an amazing project and you, the entire development team and all the great contributors deserve a hearty congratulations for work well done. Not at all. It's just impossible for the developers and community members to provide support for other solutions as we don't know what changes have been made. , osCommerce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howgo Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 Hello, just be cool Harald. In my opionen ossuite is only a modded, feature added oscommerce. I found out, that copyrights were put out of the source. So I can understand why you are angry. But I only asked something friendly, you don?t have to relegate me. Ossuite is only a changed oscommerce, so I?m right here in this forum. Questions about it could be answered here. I was interested in this version, because there are nice features included, the origin oscommerce don?t have. But I don?t want to use a older version of this product, so I will not decide to use ossuite. There is a second changed osc too, look at http://www.theme-shop.de - I think this is not the last one. But osc is "Open Source" so everybody can change it - but you get angry ? Greets Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthrash Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I apologize if I offended you in some manner. It sounds that you're upset about OSSuite. I don't understand that, and I'm probably totally off base. OSC is an amazing project and you, the entire development team and all the great contributors deserve a hearty congratulations for work well done. Not at all. It's just impossible for the developers and community members to provide support for other solutions as we don't know what changes have been made. Glad to see that there's no ill will. I'm not looking any information that relates to anything but just OSCommerce. So given that, is there documentation similar to what's there for 2.2 available for 2.1? Thanks. Ryan Thrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Ponce de Leon Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Ossuite is only a changed oscommerce, so I?m right here in this forum. Questions about it could be answered here. What makes you think that? This is a forum for osCommerce, not for OSSuite. OSSuite have their forums here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=65144 Please direct further OSSuite questions there. I was interested in this version, because there are nice features included, the origin oscommerce don?t have. Which is why it's impossible for this community to provide support for a foreign solution. I hope thats understandable. There is a second changed osc too, look at http://www.theme-shop.de - I think this is not the last one. But osc is "Open Source" so everybody can change it - but you get angry ? I am not angry, I am just pointing out the proper places to direct your questions to. Theme-Shop's support forums are here: http://www.theme-shop.de/cgi-bin/ikonboard.pl , osCommerce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Wouldn't it have been better to create a Nola add-on for OSC than to create an ill-fated branch off the OSC source (i.e. OSSuite)? Anyway, I've been scouring the boards, there is a lot of buzz around accouting solutions for OSC. Wondering if anyone is working in this direction (i.e. as an add-on to OSC, not another branch)??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruppell Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 For those of you interested in an ERP solution for your osCommerce store, the OSSuite project is back in development. The new (updated) goal is to make the ERP portion of OSSuite to be an "add-on" to osCommerce 2.2MS2. (and yes, credit WILL be given to all OSSuite developers AND the osCommerce developers, contributors, and project, unlike the original OSSuite! :-" ) Since OSSuite is merely an entire store (catalog & admin plus ERP) solution we only need to rewrite the ERP portion to attach to the current osCommerce version to be a fully working solution. The current version of osCommerce already has the catalog & admin parts, so we would be just "adding" the ERP part as an option to again create the "osSuite". :) This lessens our responsibility as we do not need to focus our attentions (i.e. waste time and energy) on fixing any problems found in the antiquated version of "TEP" (old version of osCommerce). :D The things we are working on now are changing the database structure of the ERP to work with the current database structure of osCommerce. We will use what osCommerce already has as it's database structure and merely ADD to it instead of changing it entirely. B) This will allow users to be able to easily upgrade and modify their osCommerce stores without having to update/modify the ERP "add-on". AND, as an "add-on" instead of a separate "branch", osCommerce support, contributions, etc. will be usable. If you want to find out more about the OSSuite project, please visit the SourceForge page for OSSuite! We would LOVE to have more developers, testers, documentation, etc. This may be a pipe dream, but I'm hoping to have it operational within 2-3 months. Even if it takes longer to get it accomplished, it will be a magnificent contribution to the osCommerce project! As soon as we have the database part finished, we'll upload osERP as an osCommerce contrib so that people can begin to test it and help us find any changes/updates that need to be made. Once OSSuite is compatible with osCommerce 2.2MS2, we will begin working on creating a MS3 compatible version and incorporating/integrating a CRM solution. Thank you! --Brandi An OSSuite Project Admin https://sourceforge.net/projects/ossuite/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumping Rabbit Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 For those who want a working solution right now the combination of OSC2.2 and Turbocash (accounting, POS and more) works greate... The integration contribution you can Find here..... Faster Checkout - osCommerce Knowledge Base - Anyone meet offline?, Has anyone of you cyberkids meet offline? For newbees do atleast read this 4 points: Basic info - Search tips and help - Posting tips and help - Basics for Design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruppell Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 For those who want a working solution right now the combination of OSC2.2 and Turbocash (accounting, POS and more) works greate... The integration contribution you can Find here..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Unless I am missing something, I do not see Payroll in that solution. Let me know. --Brandi An OSSuite Project Admin https://sourceforge.net/projects/ossuite/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy James Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Isn't it against the forum rules to be posting about forks or link to forks? Wendy James Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Aren't these guys going to offer it as a contrib as opposed to a pre-integrated solution? I think the previous one (fork-like) is back in 2002 somewhere... Sounds like they're trying to play nice to me. Iggy Everything's funny but nothing's a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruppell Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Isn't it against the forum rules to be posting about forks or link to forks? Aren't these guys going to offer it as a contrib as opposed to a pre-integrated solution? I think the previous one (fork-like) is back in 2002 somewhere... Sounds like they're trying to play nice to me. Iggy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, as my fellow BOFH points out :thumbsup: , the original version of OSSuite WAS a fork/branch/etc. However, the current developers and Project admins have changed the goal to be a "contribution" INSTEAD of a fork/branch/etc. We have realized a few things. 1. the ERP portion of OSSuite is actually rather "finished" in that not much has to be updated to keep it current. (Accounting is probably never going to change until the public realizes that 1+1 equals 3 instead of 2. :) Until then, the Accounting/ERP won't change much, except when dealing with the data security.) 2. Keeping up with osCommerce should be the core principle/goal/focus/etc. osCommerce has a lot more to upgrade/update on a much more frequent basis. e-Commerce will never really stay the same. Also, not very many people keep their osCommerce stores as a basic install. Most shop owners require modifications to their stores and it's far too unrealistic to change the core osCommerce code and/or database so that future modifications and upgrades are impossible. I feel that the original developers must have thought they were going to offer modifications/upgrades/contribs/etc. but the project has suffered because of this. The current team of developers merely wants to convert the project from a fork/branch to a contribution so that the entire osCommerce community can benefit from the project. OSSuite is becoming a CONTRIBUTION. It will no longer be a fork/branch. --Brandi An OSSuite Project Admin https://sourceforge.net/projects/ossuite/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Vger Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 If the OSSuite contains all of the source files of osCommerce (modded or otherwise) then it will not be allowed as a Contribution. In which case your entire new strategy is a waste of time. That would be getting a 'fork' added by the back door. The only way in which it would be allowed would be if it was a limited number of files providing a solution to one or more problems/modules. I'm surprised that Harald even replied to this, as the forum rule is to delete all posts about forks and to send the poster an e-mail stating why it had been removed. Vger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruppell Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 If the OSSuite contains all of the source files of osCommerce (modded or otherwise) then it will not be allowed as a Contribution. In which case your entire new strategy is a waste of time. That would be getting a 'fork' added by the back door. The only way in which it would be allowed would be if it was a limited number of files providing a solution to one or more problems/modules. I'm surprised that Harald even replied to this, as the forum rule is to delete all posts about forks and to send the poster an e-mail stating why it had been removed. Vger <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It will NOT contain all of the files for osCommerce! It will be a true contribution/add-on and will only contain the files for the ERP portion of the project! (Harald replied to the original posting of this message when it was originally posted back in 2002 when the project WAS a fork.) The project WILL NOT be a fork/branch any longer! That is what I'm announcing. We are currently working on making the ERP portion separate from the old TEP portions of OSSuite so that it can easily be added to a current osCommerce 2.2MS2 store. The "Contribution" will ONLY contain the files for the ERP portion, as well as an installation guide, a sql file to update the osCommerce sql database (to only add tables and fields necessary to run the ERP), as well as a "Credits" file that will thank those people and technologies/software that helped make it possible. --Brandi An OSSuite Project Admin https://sourceforge.net/projects/ossuite/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infoseek Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 https://sourceforge.net/projects/ossuite/ I sure hope this project is back on track. What's the latest on this? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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