dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 Hello all, I have been searching for a free ecommerce solution and osCommerce looks great... but my webhost does not support mySQL databases. I have tried to run the install script on my machine (winXP Pro, IIS 5.1, PHP 4.2.3, mySQL 3.23.53) but it does not seem to like win2k/XP servers... I put in all the info under New Install and hit continue and the same page keeps coming up... sometimes it will tell me "The remote procedure call failed and did not execute" and sometimes the PHP will tell me that it could not load the libraries (says they are not found, even though the paths are correct and the files are there!)... anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of any other free ecommerce solutions similar to osCommerce, but that uses MsAccess databases and preferably ASP scripting (I know ASP alot better than PHP). thanks in advance, DreamScape The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Lakers818 Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 You may want to check out www.revecom.com theyre pretty good database and all and CC processing.. database , inventory, customer managment, the whole deal.. problem is the web pages arent created dynamically. so after you upload a product to the database, you have to create the pages manually and link to the cart. etc.. thats why i moved to os commerce... dynamicity is great. but consider revecom.
mattice Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of any other free ecommerce solutions similar to osCommerce, but that uses MsAccess databases and preferably ASP scripting (I know ASP alot better than PHP). Somehow me thinks this is not the place to ask... :D "Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them"
Tomcat Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 Dreamscape, You better find a hosting service that does support MySql.... there are lots out there. I haven't seen anything like OSC so far....and it's free. :D For installation, be aware that is easier to install it on a remote server then configure it locally, because servers already have all the software set up by default ( Myphpadmin, Apache, Mysql, etc. ) and you're ready to go... Franco Outside links in signatures are not allowed!
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 well ok... I do not know why the don't offer mySQL (since it is free)... but they do offer SQL 7... is it possible to run OSC on an SQL database? The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Tomcat Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 I don't really know Dream, But it's easier to find a new host and eventually move your domain to it... Php and Mysql are perfect !!! Franco Outside links in signatures are not allowed!
wasson65 Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 I was checking out hosting the other day, and here's what I found: 1. RedHat Linux, 1.3Ghz, 512Meg, 40Gig, 4 gigs transfer PHP/Mysql/etc/etc $99 month 2. Win2K, 1.3Ghz, 512Meg, 40Gig, 4 gigs transfer MSSQL was extra, I think it had PHP. $249 per month $150 difference per month for the chance to run MSSQL instead of mySql? No thanks.... Imagine what $150 of paid enhancements to your site every month would buy you. Windows? I'd rather go slam my hand in my car door a few times.... And another thing too: If you buy a proprietary cart, and it's buggy, you're stuck. Nobody to work on it, at least not near as many as can work on OSC. Vendor goes away? You're stuck. Vendor doesn't think it's a bug? You're stuck. Customization? Vendor set the price, you can take it or leave it. Think more about Freedom, and less about free, and the true value of Free Software becomes apparent.
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 I was checking out hosting the other day, and here's what I found: 1. RedHat Linux, 1.3Ghz, 512Meg, 40Gig, 4 gigs transfer PHP/Mysql/etc/etc $99 month 2. Win2K, 1.3Ghz, 512Meg, 40Gig, 4 gigs transfer MSSQL was extra, I think it had PHP. $249 per month $150 difference per month for the chance to run MSSQL instead of mySql? No thanks.... Imagine what $150 of paid enhancements to your site every month would buy you. $99/month webhosting... I can't afford that... I am just starting out in the ecommerce world... I have found though a host using RedHat, dual 2 GHz PVI w/ 2 GB SDRAM. All SCSI RAID (2U), 350MB (should be more than enough), 20gigs transfer/month, SSL, PHP/MySQL/etc.., 99.9% up-time guarantee, plus more like they are connected to 9 backbones... they are $7.75/month if you pay annually... only get 1 MySQL database but thats all I need, and additional databases are only $2/month... they are called ANHosts... anybody hear anything about them? The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
rajanurs Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 i was asking the same question.....did a search on google for 'free php hosting' and got quite a few of them i dont want to tell you the websites cos i havent figured out which is better....dont want to lead you to something not good enough....all have ads but i guess its ok to make a trial run just make a search....
Guest Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 I was checking out hosting the other day, and here's what I found: 1. RedHat Linux, 1.3Ghz, 512Meg, 40Gig, 4 gigs transfer PHP/Mysql/etc/etc $99 month 2. Win2K, 1.3Ghz, 512Meg, 40Gig, 4 gigs transfer MSSQL was extra, I think it had PHP. $249 per month $150 difference per month for the chance to run MSSQL instead of mySql? No thanks.... Imagine what $150 of paid enhancements to your site every month would buy you. $99/month webhosting... I can't afford that... I am just starting out in the ecommerce world... I have found though a host using RedHat, dual 2 GHz PVI w/ 2 GB SDRAM. All SCSI RAID (2U), 350MB (should be more than enough), 20gigs transfer/month, SSL, PHP/MySQL/etc.., 99.9% up-time guarantee, plus more like they are connected to 9 backbones... they are $7.75/month if you pay annually... only get 1 MySQL database but thats all I need, and additional databases are only $2/month... they are called ANHosts... anybody hear anything about them? Anybody offering those prices like that have their boxes so packed with sites, you're going to get what you're paying for. Slow connection times and an overloaded server because at those rates they can only break even if they've got a couple hundred sites on their servers. I offer 20 gig transfer and 100 MB of space for $25 a month with two MySQL dB's and 50 email accounts. SSL certificate installation is available and the price I offer them for is only $80 per year (as opposed to several hundred for Verisign and others). SSL isn't extra monthly, but does require a $25 set-up fee and an IP based plan. Additionally, you get phpMyAdmin and SSH access. osCommerce runs great for me and the people I design and host for. Not advertising here, but just telling you to look into what you're getting and email the host before you commit to anything. See if they're flexible enough to meet yuor needs. (And another thing that most hosts DO NOT offer is php safemode off, which allows you to upload your images from the admin area. You *will* want this option enabled for you). The reason I got into hosting myself and getting my own servers is because I got tired of the paid hosts out there not offering what I needed and very few were flexible. Managing my own box eliminated that for myself and all my clients.
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 Anybody offering those prices like that have their boxes so packed with sites, you're going to get what you're paying for. Slow connection times and an overloaded server because at those rates they can only break even if they've got a couple hundred sites on their servers. Yeah I am still looking around... there are some that offer low rates and guaruntee they will not put over a certain number of sites per server... one such is webmasters... they guaruntee that they will put no more than 300 accounts on any server. I don't have a problem with that because I don't plan to have more than say 5 or 10 people at my site at any one moment in time... I don't need some dedicated enterprise server here... I am a very very small business just starting out. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Jan0815 Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 Slowly but surely this thread is moving in an unwanted direction. Discussions about hosting plans etc. should be moved to www.webhostingtalk.com This thread should stay focused on alternatives to osCommerce - as the subject indicates. You can't have everything. That's why trains have difficulty crossing oceans, and hippos did not adapt to fly. -- from the OpenBSD mailinglist.
Aodhan Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 Hello all, I have been searching for a free ecommerce solution and osCommerce looks great... but my webhost does not support mySQL databases. I have tried to run the install script on my machine (winXP Pro, IIS 5.1, PHP 4.2.3, mySQL 3.23.53) but it does not seem to like win2k/XP servers... I put in all the info under New Install and hit continue and the same page keeps coming up... sometimes it will tell me "The remote procedure call failed and did not execute" and sometimes the PHP will tell me that it could not load the libraries (says they are not found, even though the paths are correct and the files are there!)... anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew of any other free ecommerce solutions similar to osCommerce, but that uses MsAccess databases and preferably ASP scripting (I know ASP alot better than PHP). thanks in advance, DreamScape There are a few out there that are free and have source code, but most of them are worth what you pay for. I can understand, since I was primarily an ASP/Cold Fusion webbie before I started into PHP and OsC (OsC was my primary reason for learning PHP). There's one called A-Cart that isn't too bad, but is limited in scope, and has no real payment gateways. Any that have gateways generally make you pay for them. http://www.phpwebhosting.com This is where I currently host my site (Which is still under development), and one of the really nice things is they have mySqladmin web interface preinstalled. Supposedly unlimited disk space, and other really nice stuff. I found quite a few shopping carts in ASP, but most were either incredibly basic or required fees for anything worthwhile. The Open source model is steadily converting me into a Linux/PHP proponent. Aodhan
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 Slowly but surely this thread is moving in an unwanted direction. Discussions about hosting plans etc. should be moved to www.webhostingtalk.com This thread should stay focused on alternatives to osCommerce - as the subject indicates. I started the thread... I think that gives me the right to take in another direction if I so choose The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Aodhan Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 Slowly but surely this thread is moving in an unwanted direction. Discussions about hosting plans etc. should be moved to www.webhostingtalk.com This thread should stay focused on alternatives to osCommerce - as the subject indicates. I started the thread... I think that gives me the right to take in another direction if I so choose Possibly, but as Jan is one of the Core Team, and a moderator, he has the right to declare it off topic and undesired. And, getting snippy only upsets people...I learned that the hard way once... :oops: Aodhan
Jan0815 Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 I started the thread... I think that gives me the right to take in another direction if I so choose Ofcourse. But please also notice our forum rules: http://www.oscommerce.com/forums/faq.php The first rule being: * The forum is for information exchange only. Commercial advertising is not allowed. A thread about web hosting companies will move into commercial advertising which is not wanted here. There are places that concentrate on that stuff - we always mention www..webhostingtalk.com And if you really want to change the focus of this thread you should change the subject. You can't have everything. That's why trains have difficulty crossing oceans, and hippos did not adapt to fly. -- from the OpenBSD mailinglist.
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 well sorry... I was just looking for a place to test OSC at since I cannot get my local machine set up right (PHP keeps changing the include dir)... since this is the OSC forum, I just assumed that people here were running OSC and would be able to let me know of a reliable mySQL/PHP host. guess I was wrong. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Jan0815 Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 The most reliable place to test osC is localhost ;-) Install phptriad on your windows machine (assuming you are using windows) and off you go. http://sourceforge.net/projects/phptriad And the best thing: It is all for free ;-) HTH You can't have everything. That's why trains have difficulty crossing oceans, and hippos did not adapt to fly. -- from the OpenBSD mailinglist.
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 The most reliable place to test osC is localhost ;-) Install phptriad on your windows machine (assuming you are using windows) and off you go. http://sourceforge.net/projects/phptriad And the best thing: It is all for free ;-) HTH Yes... I know this... I have been scripting ASP for a little over a year now and always test it and develop it on localhost... I was gonna do this with OSC, but I installed PHP and set up mySQL fine and did the OSC web installer (/catalog/install/install.php)... but I get a PHP error when i try to access any files... Fatal error: Failed opening required 'includes/languages/.php' (include_path='.;c:php4pear') in c:inetpubwwwrootadminincludesapplication_top.php on line 199 PHP won't see my include path as anything other than C:php4pear... Another person posted this in the Installation forum, but got no answers really... I posted I am having the same problem and no answers... so until I can figure out what PHP is doing here and how to fix it, I can't test on localhost. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Jan0815 Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 Fatal error: Failed opening required 'includes/languages/.php' (include_path='.;c:php4pear') in c:inetpubwwwrootadminincludesapplication_top.php on line 199 PHP won't see my include path as anything other than C:php4pear... Wrong ;-) Read again: include_path='.;c:php4pear' Notice the '.' at the start of the include path. It means the actual directory. There seems to be a problem with your DOCUMENT_ROOT. Are you using IIS? I have Apache running here (installed it myself) under WinXP and I can run the installer with no problems. You can't have everything. That's why trains have difficulty crossing oceans, and hippos did not adapt to fly. -- from the OpenBSD mailinglist.
dreamscape Posted November 21, 2002 Author Posted November 21, 2002 Yes I am running IIS 5.1 on WinXP Pro cause I also do ASP development. I am running PHP4 using the ISAPI layer: php4isapi.dll I have configured it [php4] according to all instructions as best I could... Also when i run the install script when it gets to the point where it will write to the configuration files, it doesn't because it gets a permission denied, even though under IIS, I have the permissions for my catalog and admin directories and those configuration files set to allow read, write, and script access... The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
dreamscape Posted November 22, 2002 Author Posted November 22, 2002 the problem has been solved... after much searching, finally over at php.net burried in the knowledge base I found this: Warning: Failed opening 'd:Inetpubwwwroottest.php' for inclusion (include_path='') in Unknown on line 0 May 4th, 2002 07:16 Answer: Check you permissions on file try using 755 on file it might help Marko If you're using IIS, make sure you created a new site or virtual directory, for your source directory, in the Default Website aha... there it was... when using IIS and PHP, for each directory you have that uses includes, you MUST go into the IIS manager, right click on that folder, and turn it into a virtual directory... something this important I though would have been included in the windows installation tech docs packed with OSC2.2, but then I guess that there are not many running PHP on an IIS windows server. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
Jan0815 Posted November 22, 2002 Posted November 22, 2002 Well - thanks for the information. If you agree I will use your words in a FAQ entry about IIS installation. And now: Have fun with osCommerce! You can't have everything. That's why trains have difficulty crossing oceans, and hippos did not adapt to fly. -- from the OpenBSD mailinglist.
dreamscape Posted November 22, 2002 Author Posted November 22, 2002 yes you asbolutely can... will help others to avoid the same problem... and I am having fun with OSC... customizing the layout and what not... The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke
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