Whats the best way to have more than 1 site?

[Ausgirl]

Hello There,

 

Was just wondering, what is the best way to go about having more than one site.

 

Is it better to have your second site on a different server or stay with the one you have?

 

Is it better to have a subdomain or a complete seperate domain and link your sites to each other?

 

What else should one consider when wanting to set up another site.

 

Having more than one site should help with seo and all that shouldnt it?

 

Thanks

 

:)

[Jack_mcs]

If the second site is to be used for SEO purposes, then it needs to be on a different server. If SEO is a secondary consideration, then the site can be on the same server. Just add the domain as an add-on (some hosts or hosting plans won't allow this) and point your second domain name to it. Generally speaking though, if you can afford it, go with the second server. Servers do go down but it is unlikely they will both go down at the same time.

 

Jack

[Ausgirl]

Hello Jack,

 

It wouldnt matter if the host was the same as long as its a different server, would it?

 

Also, do you think that oscommerce could do this:

 

See Here

 

Thanks

[Ausgirl]

And this

 

:)

[Jack_mcs]

It shouldn't matter about the host. The search engines will check the IP's so that can make a difference.

 

Of the two links, the page for the second one doesn't see to work properly. I tried clicking on the options but it just showed a blank cup. The first one (I'm assuimg you mean the color change) can be done with javascript. I don't know if there is a contribution for doing this. I do recall seeing one that changed something about the image with javascript but I think it was for a mouseover effect. If not, you could probably find such a script on one of the javascript sites, like hot scripts.

 

Jack

[Ausgirl]

No worries, I will have a look at that hot scripts.

 

Thanks Jack

[smileynyc]

Just curious - why not put all your products on one site?

[Ausgirl]

Just curious - why not put all your products on one site?

 

Hello Smiley,

 

Its good for SEO purposes. One site will help boost the other. Potential customers will find one site & you can redirect them to the other. If you do a search here in the forum on "Mini Site" Im sure something will pop up there, Or maybe someone might pop in here & explain the benefits a bit better than I can.

 

:thumbsup:

[squalid]

I think that having another site soley to redirect to another would probably be in violation of googles quality guidelines.

 

and i cant see any benefit that would wouldnt be achieved by having good original content on the one site :huh:

[Jack_mcs]

No, it's not violating any rules. Of course, if you just had a site with one link on it to another site, they would probably ignore it and maybe not list it. But having such a site is one of the main reasons people use blogs (outside of sharing their most important thoughts, of course). If you can get the PR and index position on such a site built-up, then it can have a significant affect on your main shop. But making that happen is very difficult.

 

Jack

[squalid]

they are not rules - more guidelines (granny suck eggs etc - i know you know)

 

and it could be argued that the following guidelines would be aimed at this sort of practise =

 

Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"

 

Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.

 

I understand what you say about the blog effects etc, but surely one would be better off with a blog attached to the main site - and so time and effort in SEO would be best put into the one domain instead of diluting time and effort over two sites.

 

The biggest, best and most popular sites in the world are not the ones with the most associated domains - more the ones with the best relevant and unique content.

[Ausgirl]

The biggest, best and most popular sites in the world are not the ones with the most associated domains - more the ones with the best relevant and unique content.

 

Its not just content, a whole other factors come in to it. Why is it that Joe Blow sells TVs and Joe Woe has the same product yet sells nothing while JB is racking it in?

 

Its called marketing, promoting your self, advertising, service, the look & feel ect... and doing things that hopefully some one else is'nt or by doing one better than them.

 

These biggest & best sites have more than one site. I know of quite a few that do it. I never metioned making a duplicate site. What would be the point in that.

 

As for "feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you" I dont need to explain myself to anyone. Its every man for himself. If one was too busy worrying about what someone else thought, then no one would bother to try and have a successful buisness whether on line or at your local Shopping Center or any where else for that matter, now would they.

[squalid]

As for "feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you" I dont need to explain myself to anyone. Its every man for himself. If one was too busy worrying about what someone else thought, then no one would bother to try and have a successful buisness whether on line or at your local Shopping Center or any where else for that matter, now would they.

 

what you have quoted and flamed "feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you" is actually from google guidelines, and yes - sometimes site owners do have to answer to google when they get dropped from the index, and it is a good idea to worry about whether google thinks you are heading for a breach of their guidelines.

 

if you are marketing and promoting a site - i cant see the benefits of putting half of your products on one site and half on another - you say that it is for SEO purposes - so what are the benefits ?

[Ausgirl]

For one, the products on the 2nd site are completely different to the main site and would be better off on there own. As for google you don't have to be ranked number 1 to do well. Google ranks on how well designed your site is. Not your sale figures. I never "flamed" anything. I was simply making a statement. I am well in the "Google Guidelines". I simply wanted to know the best way was to go about it. You dont have to agree with it and Im not having a debate with you about it.

[squalid]

well its a different matter if you have two different products that need to be seperate to benefit from different types/styles of marketing etc

 

but this wasnt mentioned and the question was asked beforehand as to why that you would wish to put some of your products on a different domain. the original reason was interpreted as soley for SEO benefits.

 

being a public forum that alot of people look at for help and advice, its always best to ensure that matters are clear - else people may consider that the only way to successfully promote their websites is by having multiple domains - with no qualified evidence as yet to back this up.

[Jack_mcs]

they are not rules - more guidelines (granny suck eggs etc - i know you know)

 

and it could be argued that the following guidelines would be aimed at this sort of practise =

I understand what you say about the blog effects etc, but surely one would be better off with a blog attached to the main site - and so time and effort in SEO would be best put into the one domain instead of diluting time and effort over two sites.

 

The biggest, best and most popular sites in the world are not the ones with the most associated domains - more the ones with the best relevant and unique content.

Google changed some things last year. One of which is that they won't usually rank a site in the main listing until if is proven to be a site worth listing. That usually means that the site has links to it and the traffic to support it. You can optimize your site to the fullest but if no one is linking to it, it will not show up anytime soon. A single-page html site can be used to give that boost, although it will suffer from the same problem. But it is not doing anything underhanded. On your main site, if you optimize it properly, there should be a link to the home page in the footer so as to increase PR. Everyone in the SEO community does this and it is considered normal and acceptable practice. Having such a link on a different site is no diffierent. If you are listed with a directory service, such as DMoz, which is approved and often used by google, then you are doing basically the same thing as having your own mini-site. The differences are that DMoz is established and may give better results at first and you have more control over what is displayed on your mini-site.

 

Jack

[squalid]

i think that the inital poser was regarding having two shop sites for SEO purposes. So if someone is struggling with results on one site - then having another site will just double that problem.

 

Say if i wasnt having problems with SEO - why would i then take the time and effort to make another shop site to boost the first ? when efforts would be better spent in making the original an even greater resource.

 

and, on the other hand, say if i am having problems with SEO, then maybe sorting out the problems and not duplicating them would be the answer instead of having multiple domains.

[Jack_mcs]

The best way to increase your PR is to have a non-returned link from another site. You can't do that on your own, at least not easily. If your site is ranked number one for your chosen keyword, then you are correct, there is no reason to bother with any other changes. But reaching that position, or even a top ten, is not always possible if the keyword is highly competitive. Additional links, especially one-way links, can make the difference in those cases.

 

Jack

[Ausgirl]

i think that the initial poser was regarding having two shop sites for SEO purposes. So if someone is struggling with results on one site - then having another site will just double that problem.

 

No, I was not asking the original question for just SEO purposes. If you read the original question that was posted. I just wanted to know the best way to go about having a 2nd site. Im not having problems with SEO, this is not the reason for the 2nd site. Nothing mentioned about having a 2nd site for SEO purposes. Later if you read on, it is suggested that it can help with SEO. No one is certainly suggesting that anyone go out and get a 2nd site. You have misunderstood what the original post is about.

 

You are assuming that there is something wrong with the original site when there is not. Simply there is no point in putting underware on a site that sells dog biscuits.

[squalid]

Having more than one site should help with seo and all that shouldnt it?

 

Q. Just curious - why not put all your products on one site?

 

A.

Its good for SEO purposes.

 

i can fully understand why one would misunderstand the purposes of the post.

[Ausgirl]

I dont wish to put all products on the one site as it doesnt fit to well. If you go to My site and look, then you click the link in the 3rd & 4th post you will see what I want to do with the 2nd site.

 

It can be good for SEO purposes you can google mini sites or to get an idea you can look Here

 

No one is suggesting thats the way to go. I have one product that I dont think suits my current site so I was wanting to know what would be the best way to go about having a 2nd site so I was within guidelines & while Im at it, I might as well try and make the SEO work for me. I also wanted to know if oscommerce could do what I wanted as there is nothing in the contributions that does this.

 

I knew one way was probably better than the other (whether or not to stay with the same server) I wasnt sure which. That is why I posted the question.

[♥toyicebear]

Multi-Stores multiple shop system

[Ausgirl]

Multi-Stores multiple shop system

 

 

Thats handy,

 

Thanks

[allensebastian]

Hello There,

 

Was just wondering, what is the best way to go about having more than one site.

 

Is it better to have your second site on a different server or stay with the one you have?

 

Is it better to have a subdomain or a complete seperate domain and link your sites to each other?

 

What else should one consider when wanting to set up another site.

 

Having more than one site should help with seo and all that shouldnt it?

 

Thanks

 

:)

 

 

for this u can better register your main domain in one good server and from that u can add using add on websites, for u i think MD webhosting is best for Aus!! so please reply me for this --->

 

 

hi i think u r well in OS commerce and i want to configure our OS commerce, please check our page, it is not completed http://abemediastudio/abeshop could u please please tell me how to configure the OS COMMERCE page, if u come online to help u can contact me at [email protected] so please reply me, Bye

[Ausgirl]

for this u can better register your main domain in one good server and from that u can add using add on websites, for u i think MD webhosting is best for Aus!! so please reply me for this --->

 

I already have a good host, thanks

 

hi i think u r well in OS commerce and i want to configure our OS commerce, please check our page, it is not completed http://abemediastudio/abeshop could u please please tell me how to configure the OS COMMERCE page, if u come online to help u can contact me at [email protected] so please reply me, Bye

 

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