ranking 0/10

[Chris Smith]

My page rank for Google is 0/10 for http://www.personaliseyourgift.com & www.personaliseyourgift.com People are only comming to the site because I decided to fork out a small fortune to Google Adwords. Should I go to a SEO company or do you guys/girls think that its possible for someone who has no knowedge whatsoever of SEO to fix their own rankings.

 

Help and advice needed

 

Chris :thumbsup:

[sapphal]

My page rank is 0/10 for http://www.personaliseyourgift.com & www.personaliseyourgift.com People are only comming to the site because I decided to fork out a small fortune to Google Adwords. Should I go to a SEO company or do you guys/girls think that its possible for someone who has no knowedge whatsoever of SEO to fix their own rankings.

 

Help and advice needed

 

Chris :thumbsup:

 

Read the marketing bits of this forum, install the header tags and ultimate SEO urls, sitemap and exchange some links. Install the who's on-line contribution and watch the spiders and bots crawl your site.

 

Howard

[abra123cadabra]

What do you expect? Your site is only up and running for a couple of months. How to get a page rank in Google if you only have two pages indexed with them?

 

It takes a lot of time and patience to get a page rank. Basically this is awarded by Google when their algorithms think that the page is relevant, ie people click on the link in the search results. Once you got the PR, your page is considered more important in the search results.

 

First thing you need to do is get your pages listed in Google. You can do this with by using the Google Sitemap Tool in your Google account. There is an osC contribution to generate sitemaps on the fly. You can also add an All Products listing for the other search engines. Next it's important to show up in the search results and that is done mainly by adding relevant content to your site. You can install the ultimate SEO urls which change your product links to something more meaningful.

 

abra

[Chris Smith]

What do you expect? Your site is only up and running for a couple of months. How to get a page rank in Google if you only have two pages indexed with them?

 

It takes a lot of time and patience to get a page rank. Basically this is awarded by Google when their algorithms think that the page is relevant, ie people click on the link in the search results. Once you got the PR, your page is considered more important in the search results.

 

First thing you need to do is get your pages listed in Google. You can do this with by using the Google Sitemap Tool in your Google account. There is an osC contribution to generate sitemaps on the fly. You can also add an All Products listing for the other search engines. Next it's important to show up in the search results and that is done mainly by adding relevant content to your site. You can install the ultimate SEO urls which change your product links to something more meaningful.

 

abra

 

How do you get a listing on DMOZ? the suggest a site keeps going 404 and I heard the only way is to bribe an editor, is this true?

[Chris Smith]

How do you get a listing on DMOZ? the suggest a site keeps going 404 and I heard the only way is to bribe an editor, is this true?

 

Also I heard that this is the PageRank algorithm PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn))

 

I know that the algorithm is a secret so I am doubtful but who knows.

[jpweber]

To get a site listed in DMOZ, simply go to DMOZ.org. It's a very well-respected, free backlink directory -- well respected by Google, especially.

 

But it does take months -- I mean, 2-6 MONTHS, for you to get listed. Follow their instructions on how to submit a URL carefully, and don't bend any of their rules.

 

You do NOT have to become an editor to get listed on DMOZ. And if you're going to submit your website, do NOT apply to become an editor, 'cause you'll just get denied once you tell 'em. And if you don't tell 'em, and they find out, your site will be banned.

 

Go ahead and list with DMOZ, and list with as many other free backlinks as you can. DMOZ will take months, but others only take a couple of days. Follow the advice others have given re: header tags, content, etc. .... And most of all, be patient. Google takes longer than other search engines to get natural results. I know it can take 2-10 months to get natural results in Google.

[Jack_mcs]

My page rank for Google is 0/10 for http://www.personaliseyourgift.com & www.personaliseyourgift.com People are only comming to the site because I decided to fork out a small fortune to Google Adwords. Should I go to a SEO company or do you guys/girls think that its possible for someone who has no knowedge whatsoever of SEO to fix their own rankings.

 

Help and advice needed

 

Chris :thumbsup:

Don't get hung up on Page Rank. It has little effect overall. What you want to concentrate on is getting a good index position. That is the place you show up at in the search engine listings. You do that by installing the contributions mentioned above as well as others meant for this purpose (there are about ten). You also have to target keywords for your home page. Without doing that, you will not place as you want.

 

You can make all of the SEO changes yourself. The contributions needed are mentioned in the forums many times so you shouldn't have a problem getting them in. But the other things, like picking keywords will take some work on your part. If you do hire an SEO company, be sure they have intimiate knowledge of oscommerce. If not, they will not set the shop of properly and the money you pay would be a waste. Also be sure that they target good keywords. Many of those compaines guarantee a top ten spot in the listings and then target keywords that won't help you. They fulfill their promise but it doesn't help your site at all.

 

As for DMoz, depending upon the category you list in, it may take years to get listed. It is a good idea to list there but I wouldn't place all of my hopes on it due to the length of time it can take.

 

Jack

[Guest]

Re Google Adwords.

You need to use the correct & relevant adwords for best results. Try around with changing adwords once a week trying new ones, different ones, those in plural, sentences, etc. and, dont be afraid to delete some (even if they have hits) if you havent received any orders.

[jpweber]

You're just stuck in The Google Sandbox. Continue to add relevant content to your site, and wait the necessary 3-5 months to get out of "Google Probation". Then watch you site (and Page Rank, which as Jack says, is of little importance) climb.