baalwww Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 ...spiders, so I'll understand why there are so many contributions and settings, some seeming to attempt to repel (which, considering I have arachnophobia, I'm ok with) and some to attract (yuck). I know what they do at too shallow a level apparently. ...HTML meta tags ... I understand what they are, how they work, why they're important. What I don't understand is how the contrib can provide these for pages that dont really exist until they're created on-the-fly, such as a product page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreigle Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 don't know of any threads off hand. i can try to answer the questions though... preventing spider sessions is important because you'll get a spider (like googlebot) indexing the same page in their index over and over like this: 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:09 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=941105bb0b2c514ccede35867ab9f174 HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:10 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=d6038dc7772568e7e5112be0c08ec8dc HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:10 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=c75f6f5a5471b7a0f68616e52144949b HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:11 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=d0ea67a642361ba7f7fe86ea39b157e1 HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" index.php could be indexed several times because each time it might see it as a different page, when it's actually the same page. notice how the osCsid is different for each one? this will ultimately cause the spider to get confused and not index the site properly. as far as the meta tags go, the contribution i have adds three boxes to my product editing page. it has a "title" "description" and "keywords" box. this allows you to enter unique meta tag information for each product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreigle Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 "Header Tags" contribution: http://www.oscommerce.com/community/contributions,207/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxtel Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 don't know of any threads off hand. i can try to answer the questions though... preventing spider sessions is important because you'll get a spider (like googlebot) indexing the same page in their index over and over like this: 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:09 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=941105bb0b2c514ccede35867ab9f174 HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:10 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=d6038dc7772568e7e5112be0c08ec8dc HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:10 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=c75f6f5a5471b7a0f68616e52144949b HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" 66.249.65.113 - - [22/Feb/2006:13:33:11 -0600] "GET /index.php?osCsid=d0ea67a642361ba7f7fe86ea39b157e1 HTTP/1.1" 200 33375 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" index.php could be indexed several times because each time it might see it as a different page, when it's actually the same page. notice how the osCsid is different for each one? this will ultimately cause the spider to get confused and not index the site properly. as far as the meta tags go, the contribution i have adds three boxes to my product editing page. it has a "title" "description" and "keywords" box. this allows you to enter unique meta tag information for each product. the real benefit of a meta tag contribution is ofcourse when it creates your tags dynamically and automatically using the product/page specific data like product name/description etc. Treasurer MFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitseffort Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 for meta tags I added some simple code to product info php and it works fine, and automatically--I dont have to add anything differently "I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the contributions an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings." ---Margaret Mead--- "The answer is never the answer. What's really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you'll always be seeking. I've never seen anybody really find the answer -- they think they have, so they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer. --Ken Kesey" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalwww Posted February 25, 2006 Author Share Posted February 25, 2006 Ah, well with the spiders I understand now. But I'm still fuzzy on the tags. It seems that the benefit of meta tags is with regards to search engines, no? And I understand that when the pages are fed to a user that the tags are created, but are pages fed up to search engines too? Do they actually request, for example, the product info pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozcsys Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Ah, well with the spiders I understand now. But I'm still fuzzy on the tags. It seems that the benefit of meta tags is with regards to search engines, no? And I understand that when the pages are fed to a user that the tags are created, but are pages fed up to search engines too? Do they actually request, for example, the product info pages? Yes the search engines will crawl and index your product pages The Knowledge Base is a wonderful thing. Do you have a problem? Have you checked out Common Problems? There are many very useful osC Contributions Are you having trouble with a installed contribution? Have you checked out the support thread found Here BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!!! You did backup, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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