Guest Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 hi everyone! asking for some input from Mac people. we put a circular layout for category icons on the index page together. i was going to put it up as a little contribution but we are hearing: Domain: www.neverbetter.com Platform: Mac OSX, Internet Explorer 5.2 Issue: layout does not stay in place when screen is resized, icons are floating. we used a rellative/absolute CSS layout for design control. We don't test for Mac and we don't have one in shop. 1. can anyone see this? 2. is this due to Mac's incomplete DOM1 implementation? 3. does IE5.2 support rellative/absolute positioning? it tests in IE6, NN7, NN8, FF, Saf and Op8 for crying out loud. wah, wah, wah! any help kindly appreciated:)
AlanR Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 Mac IE5 is not CSS compliant (and it never will be :lol:). I frequently visit a site which went totally CSS (and only with basic stuff) and IE5 became unusable. So your choice is to build websites to sell stuff or to build them to show off fancy tricks. Local: Mac OS X 10.5.8 - Apache 2.2/php 5.3.0/MySQL 5.4.10 • Web Servers: Linux Tools: BBEdit, Coda, Versions (Subversion), Sequel Pro (db management)
Guest Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 "Mac IE5 is not CSS compliant (and it never will be :lol:)." well, it's more a matter of to what extent or which elements are supported....anyone have more specific input?
AlanR Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 Have a read through this and it's links. It may help. http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ Local: Mac OS X 10.5.8 - Apache 2.2/php 5.3.0/MySQL 5.4.10 • Web Servers: Linux Tools: BBEdit, Coda, Versions (Subversion), Sequel Pro (db management)
Iggy Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 "Mac IE5 is not CSS compliant (and it never will be :lol:)." well, it's more a matter of to what extent or which elements are supported....anyone have more specific input? At this point you probably won't see any IE5 users as Mac IE5 use is vanishingly small. In the past the only way I could get around all the wierdness in IE5 (so special it even has a different implementation of CSS from it PC brethren) was to code the site specifically for it and redirect. Kinda makes you want to take a rolled up paper to Microsoft's nose. "Bad Microsoft! Bad! Don't poo in the house!" Good luck but I think your fighting a quixotic battle there. Iggy Everything's funny but nothing's a joke...
Guest Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 taken altogether, OSC's transitional DTD is a good balance of trade-offs. looks like it's a known IE5.x/Mac issue: Incorrect inheritance of positioning information to children of relatively positioned elements http://www.macedition.com/cb/ie5macbugs/#relposbug i found something to look into, http://css.nu/pointers/position.html thanks for your input Alan:) "At this point you probably won't see any IE5 users as Mac IE5 use is vanishingly small." yeah, except for the client. you know the routine there.... "In the past the only way I could get around all the wierdness in IE5 (so special it even has a different implementation of CSS from it PC brethren) was to code the site specifically for it and redirect." never done it, never will. your above argument=1. "Good luck but I think your fighting a quixotic battle there." thanks but it looks like the towel is thrown in. Mac guru says: "If you have one text element relatively positioned with an absolutely positioned child (with the top and left properties set), the child should be positioned relative to the top left corner of the parent. This is so as long as the parent does not take up more than one line. However, if the parent element takes more than one line, the child element is now positioned relative to the left margin of the window (disregarding even the body's margin). The child seems to be placed relative to the logical top of the parent regardless." which leaves only a tabled alternative which has several disadvantages. i've never fought too hard for retrocompatibility. thanks for your input:)
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