Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 If someone could review my site www.picturecafe.com. Not one search engine picks it up even though I have submitted it over four weeks ago. I guess About the only hits I get are ones I pay for. Or ones from my customers from ebay. Also does anyone know of a image resizing program that will take my images in put a white border around it to make it not squish all together. Thanks! Charlie Picturescafe.com
Jack_mcs Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Your page is almost totally graphics (only 43 usable words - total). SE's cannot see graphics so you are making your page invisible to them. Also, be sure the bots are not blocked by your robots file? There are way too many words in your keywords meta tag. With no page content, the SE's are probably seeing this as spamming since they know the meta tags are not visible to a visitor. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Your page is almost totally graphics (only 43 usable words - total). SE's cannot see graphics so you are making your page invisible to them. Also, be sure the bots are not blocked by your robots file? There are way too many words in your keywords meta tag. With no page content, the SE's are probably seeing this as spamming since they know the meta tags are not visible to a visitor. Jack <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how do I kill the keywords in the meta tags? Anyone other Ideas for hits? I've heard about header controllers? Sorry I am new to this world. Havn't ever done SEO for a website.
jenso Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Hi I went on your side. It is right, most of it is graphic, but also must of all is a link to an other server... So the SE will not be interested in that page. None the less did you ever check the SE if other pages are listed. By the way where is your OSC Shop? If you only have links, the SE will not pick it up, or better say, you will not be listed so that others will find you. Make content, write,write, write.... In the moment it is just a link list - as far as I saw it. Sorry. Cheers Rich
Jack_mcs Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 how do I kill the keywords in the meta tags? Anyone other Ideas for hits? I've heard about header controllers? Sorry I am new to this world. Havn't ever done SEO for a website. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> T edit the meta keywords, the way you have it now, you will need to edit whatever files in your root directly has the tag in it. Could be just the index.php file or it could be them all (I didn't look). You should install the Header Tags Controller but I doubt very much if it does much good for you until you fix the content problem. The SE's list sites based on how relevant they are for a given search term. If they see your site as empty, they will see it not relevant. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
PartyMania Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 You should just create your main page through OSCommerce, and get OScommerce running first. No point in asking an OSCommerce board why your site isn't functioning if you don't even have OSCommerce installed.
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Hi I went on your side. It is right, most of it is graphic, but also must of all is a link to an other server... So the SE will not be interested in that page. None the less did you ever check the SE if other pages are listed. By the way where is your OSC Shop? If you only have links, the SE will not pick it up, or better say, you will not be listed so that others will find you. Make content, write,write, write.... In the moment it is just a link list - as far as I saw it. Sorry. Cheers Rich <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can someone explain what some of this stuff is. Sorry, newbie.
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 okay I am a dummy. I PUT IN THE WRONG WEBSITE It is www.picturescafe.com not picturecafe. MY BAD EVERYONE UPDATED LINK HERE! www.picturescafe.com http://www.picturescafe.com
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Go to http://seochat.com and start reading... Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Or just search the forums here for SEO. This is one of the most popular subjects and probably has the most threads of any. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Are you kidding? What this forum needs is a dedicated SEO forum since owning a store takes more than getting a domain and setting up shop. However, that is one subject area that is lacking on osCommerce support forum. If you want information on SEO go to http://seochat.com where that is their reason for existing. Around here it all osC chat...over there is SEO chat. Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 No, not kidding. That forum is good, as well as some others, and if anyone is interested in SEO then they should look at them. But when was the last time you saw someone advice on that forum that they should install the Header Tags Controller, SEO site map or, dare I say, Ultimate SEO URL's contribution? The SEO information here in the forums is valid advice and it is aimed specifically at oscommerce users. A person would be wrong not to use this resource. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Jack, I tend to disagree...the available information on the subject os SEO is sparse and not well developed. Where on the osC forum does it discuss how to accumulate Google Page Rank? Where does it discuss proper linking campaigns and strategies? Where does it discuss the latest theories on search algos for different bots? Where does it discuss how to properly create meta tags? Where does it discuss submitting to authority directories? The point I'm trying to make is that the discussion on osCommerce support forum is mainly geared to implementation of SEO modifications but not the actual theory behind them. What good is it to install a meta tag controller if you don't know how to use them properly? Bobby
Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 okay I am a dummy. I PUT IN THE WRONG WEBSITE It is www.picturescafe.com not picturecafe. MY BAD EVERYONE UPDATED LINK HERE! www.picturescafe.com http://www.picturescafe.com <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You might want to visit Sample SE Spider and get an understanding of what a general search engine spider would see when visiting your site. Another example would be Search Engine Rank Spider Sample. These may give you a bit better idea regarding the SEs and what is affecting your standings (on page content). By far the biggest direct impact to your SE rankings with Google and Yahoo! are inbound links.
Jack_mcs Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Jack, I tend to disagree...the available information on the subject os SEO is sparse and not well developed. Where on the osC forum does it discuss how to accumulate Google Page Rank? Where does it discuss proper linking campaigns and strategies? Where does it discuss the latest theories on search algos for different bots? Where does it discuss how to properly create meta tags? Where does it discuss submitting to authority directories? The point I'm trying to make is that the discussion on osCommerce support forum is mainly geared to implementation of SEO modifications but not the actual theory behind them. What good is it to install a meta tag controller if you don't know how to use them properly? Bobby <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not disagreeing with you. People should check out other sources of information. But those topics you mentioned have been covered many times on the forums. The answers you get from SEOChat are probably more authoritative but that doesn't negate the information provided in the forums by seasoned webmasters. I've probably posted at least twenty responses to questions about HTC stating that the title tag had to be edited and I explained how in some of those. My point is that if someone reads SEOChat and finds a post in which it says the title should be unique and another person reads a post on the forum that says the title tag should be unique and this is how you do it with your oscommerce shop, I think the second person will be beter off in the short-run. If neither of those people bother to find out how to effectively alter a title for SEO benefits, then there is nothing to be done for them. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 I agree...but the information is so scattered and some is outdated. At any rate, I think that if the team created an SEO channel it would kickstart the discussion of search engine related topics and keep them all in one central location on the forum. What do you say we start advocating an SEO channel? Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 I agree wholeheartedly. :) Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 So to increase my density can I add words to comment tags? or what. I really do not want to clutter my pages, have a feeling that will make customers leave.
Guest Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Charles, Don't try those black hat tactics especially if you don't know what you are not completely aware of the ramifications. The best best is to create meaningful and unique content for your pages. Don't try to stuff keywords in the text...just write it in a natural tone. If it makes sense to you then it will your customer as well. Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Charles - Adding keywords is not something to be taken lightly. It is an important factor is SEO but, if done incorrectly, can cause the reverse effect or, in some cases, get your site banned. It is not a hard subject to grasp but needs to researched before changes are made. Booby - I may be reading your response wrong but it sounds as though you are saying to ignore keyword density altogether. If so, that is bad advice. Yes, the page should be written to impress the visitor. Without well written text, the conversion ratio stands to suffer. But to ignore something like keyword density is just wrong if you care about placing well. To create a successful web page, you have to code for the visitor as well as the SE's. You could argue that if you do the latter the former falls into place, but that is not always the case. Keyword density is a prime example. One of my sites was hovering around position 150 for the chosen keyword for months. When I finally got around to it, all I changed was the wording to increase the KD. That site is now setting at position 45 for the same keyword. The text on the before and after site was, IMO, easy reading for the visitor but the one written with just the visitor in mind cost me. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 I'm not saying disregard keyword density entirely but too many times a beginning webmaster will get wrapped up in the finer points and miss the forest for the trees. Nobody knows what the magic number is with respect to density...only well educated guesstimates. My point was to write good content first then fine tune with keyword density, proximity, tags, etc once it is written...not the other way around. Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Ahh, I see and agree. :) Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Thanks for all your help! Here is what I have decided to do. 1. Actully put meta tags on my page. 2. Try and make the title for the items a little nices, but not overlylong. 3. Add H1 tags to all titles on products page 4. I already lowered my store to my domain level. (hopfully this will make the spide crawl better) 5. Update my robots.txt to exclude pages like Login and reviews 6. I installed the Header Tag Controller ( a little advice on this would be nice) I'm thinking this is the basics... A little feedback would be nice
Jack_mcs Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 3 - Just to clarify, the h1 tag is for the header title of the page, not the page title. 6 - Read through the support thread for Header Tags. It is a long thread but there is good advice on its usage in there. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
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