Guest Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 My main site went to a PR6 and almost all of my internal pages also got a PR6. A big thank you to the folks over at seochat for point me in the right direction and great how-to's on PageRank funneling. ...even my dev server got a PR4. So, all those that watch PR the dance has begun :) Bobby
PartyMania Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 n00b question: How can you find out what your PR is?
Guest Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 I have the Google toolbar installed on my browser (Mozilla, Linux OS). You can download it free for IE, Mozilla, Netscape, Firefox, etc. If you ned links let me know and I'll dig them up for you. Or, you can just Google for "Google toolbar". Bobby
Dennisra Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 Bobby: Is PR6 a good thing or should I see a doctor if I should get it? Is this the one with the really bad rash?
Guest Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 It's the Google PageRank value and may affect the position of the site in search engine results (how much it affects it is subject to debate). The PageRank is on a scale of 1-10 and is generally consider to be a log scale. Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 There's only one way - increase the number of backlinks. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
boxtel Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 There's only one way - increase the number of backlinks. Jack <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have no backlinks and my some of my pages rank 3 Treasurer MFC
Guest Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 Actually, your main page shows 1 backlink (from a post on the forum here) which is enough to pass a litle bit of PR. Bobby
Jack_mcs Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 A backlink is any site that links to you. If you post your url here in the forums and the forum page gets indexed, you have a backlink. For your site, there are nine backlinks. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
burt Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 I have a PR4 which has precisely zero backlinks. No links in, no links out, it's just 1 page with about 30 lines of text. This page gets around 15 Uniques per month. Then again, I have a site which is PR2, which has about 10 backlinks. This gets about 70 Uniques a day. Another site has a PR4, this has approximately the same number of backlinks and uniques as the PR2. PR is over-rated, in fact Google is over-rated. What matters is whether you turn visitors into sales ;)
Jack_mcs Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 I totally agree that PR is over-rated. However, by definition, you can't have a PR without backlinks. Usually people are surprised that they have links to their sites even though they have not personally added them. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
boxtel Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 I totally agree that PR is over-rated. However, by definition, you can't have a PR without backlinks. Usually people are surprised that they have links to their sites even though they have not personally added them. Jack <{POST_SNAPBACK}> funny that my chinese homepage ranks 1 point higher than the english one. Treasurer MFC
burt Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 However, by definition, you can't have a PR without backlinks. Usually people are surprised that they have links to their sites even though they have not personally added them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Untrue. One of my PR4's has no backlinks. Explanation? I can't post the URL here as that's against the Forum Rules :(
Jack_mcs Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 I obviosuly have no way to exlain it without seeing the link. And I certainly wouldn't mind being proven wrong on this. If I knew how to generate PR without the links I could make a tidy profit selling that method. But the bottom line is that if you have a pr, you have at least one link to your site. Jack Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons
Guest Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 Untrue. One of my PR4's has no backlinks. Explanation? I can't post the URL here as that's against the Forum Rules :( <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It may be possible that the site was added to the DMOZ directory without your knowledge. Yes, some sites get added by editors directly and via a submission. In this case, it would get the rank from the nested category and also weight from the eventual Google directory inclusion and also all the ODP clones that use the RDF dump. In this case the backlinks are counted but not displayed with the backlink search. ...just a possible scenario. Try to search for your domain with Google directory search: Google Directory Bobby
burt Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 That is a possible scenario, but not in this case. it's quite strange and I'm really at a loss to explain why the PR is 4, yet the site is an unused 1 page informational site which only a few people know about. Oh well, it'll stay a mystery I suppose. As I said in my other post, I also have a PR2 site and a PR4 site, both of which have approximately the same number of linkbacks and Uniques. Sales are steady at about 1 sale every 6 to 8 uniques on both, so I am sure that PR has little to do with how well a site fares with regards to sales. That PR4 anomaly is strange though, I cannot explain it.
mpiscopo Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 PR is over-rated, in fact Google is over-rated. What matters is whether you turn visitors into sales ;) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gary made a very good point here. I agree with him, page rank is way over-rated. If people put as much effort into learning how to convert traffic into sales as they do in increasing their page ranks - their online businesses would be much more successful. Topics such as usability, unique value proposition, trustworthiness, word of mouth marketing, etc. should be studied much more than page rank. You should focus on getting a few good links to your site from relevant sites (similar sites), optimize your pages for search engines, then leave it alone and move on to the marketing aspect. The amount of effort for marketing is huge compared to the amount you'll put into optimizing your site. And it will be a never ending process, lots of books to read, forums to participate in, copy to write, follow up with customers and inquiries, etc.
wizardsandwars Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 The 'backlinks' that Google actually shows that you have has not been updated in quite some time. Apparently, Google decided that it might not be such a good thing to show people exactly how many banklinks they have. So, your site may have backlinks that you don't know about becasue google isn't showing them to you. The other cases are eas y to explain as well. 2 PR4 links are better than 10 PR2 links. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: As of Oct 2006, I'm not as active in this forum as I used to be, but I still work with osC quite a bit. If you have a question about any of my posts here, your best bet is to contact me though either Email or PM in my profile, and I'll be happy to help.
avoisin Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Oh come now, we all know that Pigeon Rank is the most effective web-categorizing tool out there ... http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
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