Googlebot

[100asa]

I see, into who's online, that Googlebot make the same query os mu guest.

Is it normal?

[♥Vger]

You will want google bot to visit your site, so that you get listed with them - but you don't want google bot creating session ids. So, in your osCommerce control panel, under Configuration --> Sessions make sure that Prevent Spider Sessions is set to 'true'. This won't stop google bot visiting your site, it'll just stop it from creating session ids.

 

Vger

[100asa]

Unfortunately I've made so many changes and contribution that my osc is confused!

Into another post I say that force use cookie is off, prevent spider session is on, but I've this problem: if You set your browser to disable cookies, entering into my website (www.100asa.it) the first page can You see is logoff, and this page looping, so You don't see nothing :(

And many bots create a session id, also my prevent spider session is true.

Please. help me to configure osc to prevent spider session and able osc to see my page without cookie, as my admin.

what's the best setting of session?

Thank you in advance.

[♥Vger]

Your website is working fine on my computer. I can navigate through all the pages fine, no session ids are generated. I suggest you empty the 'History' files from your own computer and also delete all Temporary Internet Files and all Offline Content. I think you are seeing versions of your website which have been cached on your own computer. You should also set Internet Explorer to always look for a new file.

 

The only point I would make is that the English language translation of your Conditions of Use make no sense whatsoever in English.

 

Vger

[100asa]

Thank you for your suggest.

It's right: the english version of condition is not still translated.

You don't see the session id because your browser cookies is abled; but if you stop all cookies my osc see you logoff page looping.

This is the problem (only 2 days ago my osc working fine, then I've made some changes by contribution, and logoff lopp when stop cookie into browser)

[cmbyrne]

This is probably a very dumb question but, how do you know when a googlebot (or any other for that matter) is visiting your site?

 

Christina

[Arcadiauk]

CMBYRNE

 

I have this PHP at the top of my INDEX.PHP file and I get an email whenever GOOGLEBOT enters my site.

 

<?php

/*

$Id: index.php,v 1.1 2003/06/11 17:37:59 hpdl Exp $

 

osCommerce, Open Source E-Commerce Solutions

http://www.oscommerce.com

 

Copyright © 2003 osCommerce

 

Released under the GNU General Public License

*/

 

if(eregi("googlebot",$HTTP_USER_AGENT))

{

if ($QUERY_STRING != "")

{$url = "http://".$SERVER_NAME.$PHP_SELF.'?'.$QUERY_STRING;}

else

{$url = "http://".$SERVER_NAME.$PHP_SELF;}

$today = date("F j, Y, g:i a");

mail("[email protected]", "Googlebot detected on http://$SERVER_NAME", "$today - Google crawled $url");

}

 

 

The red text is the relevant bit.

 

Just make sure you alter the "[email protected]" bit before adding it.

 

Backup your index.php file before changing too.

 

Derek

[100asa]

By the last version of who's online.

I've just installed into protected folder the original version of osc: stopping all cookies I browse into website, and I can see always the sessionID.

[boxtel]

CMBYRNE

 

I have this PHP at the top of my INDEX.PHP file and I get an email whenever GOOGLEBOT enters my site.

 

<?php

/*

  $Id: index.php,v 1.1 2003/06/11 17:37:59 hpdl Exp $

 

  osCommerce, Open Source E-Commerce Solutions

  http://www.oscommerce.com

 

  Copyright ? 2003 osCommerce

 

  Released under the GNU General Public License

*/

 

if(eregi("googlebot",$HTTP_USER_AGENT))

{

if ($QUERY_STRING != "")

{$url = "http://".$SERVER_NAME.$PHP_SELF.'?'.$QUERY_STRING;}

else

{$url = "http://".$SERVER_NAME.$PHP_SELF;}

$today = date("F j, Y, g:i a");

mail("[email protected]", "Googlebot detected on http://$SERVER_NAME", "$today - Google crawled $url");

}

The red text is the relevant bit.

 

Just make sure you alter the "[email protected]" bit before adding it.

 

Backup your index.php file before changing too.

 

Derek

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

that should fill your inbox pretty fast.

[100asa]

It's right, Amanda!

[♥Vger]

I have the feeling that there is something wrong with your includes/configure.php file. Please post it here (minus the database user name and password).

 

The settings I would recommend (until we get this problem sorted out) for Configuration --> Sessions are:

 

Force Cookie Use = false

Check SSL session id = false

Check User Agent = false

Check IP Address = false

Prevent SpiderSessions = true

Recreate session = false

 

Vger

[Arcadiauk]

We average between 3 & 5 emails a day from googlebot, so it isn't that bad.

 

This is only detecting googlebot and nothing else, i'm sure you can alter the php to email when other search engines come in too.

 

Derek

[100asa]

<?php
/*
 osCommerce, Open Source E-Commerce Solutions
 http://www.oscommerce.com

 Copyright (c) 2003 osCommerce

 Released under the GNU General Public License
*/

// Define the webserver and path parameters
// * DIR_FS_* = Filesystem directories (local/physical)
// * DIR_WS_* = Webserver directories (virtual/URL)
 define('HTTP_SERVER', 'http://www.100asa.it'); // eg, http://localhost - should not be empty for productive servers
 define('HTTPS_SERVER', ''); // eg, https://localhost - should not be empty for productive servers
 define('ENABLE_SSL', false); // secure webserver for checkout procedure?
 define('HTTP_COOKIE_DOMAIN', 'www.100asa.it');
 define('HTTPS_COOKIE_DOMAIN', '');
 define('HTTP_COOKIE_PATH', '/');
 define('HTTPS_COOKIE_PATH', '');
 define('DIR_WS_HTTP_CATALOG', '/');
 define('DIR_WS_HTTPS_CATALOG', '');
 define('DIR_WS_IMAGES', 'images/');
 define('DIR_WS_ICONS', DIR_WS_IMAGES . 'icons/');
 define('DIR_WS_INCLUDES', 'includes/');
 define('DIR_WS_BOXES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'boxes/');
 define('DIR_WS_FUNCTIONS', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'functions/');
 define('DIR_WS_CLASSES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'classes/');
 define('DIR_WS_MODULES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'modules/');
 define('DIR_WS_LANGUAGES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'languages/');

 define('DIR_WS_DOWNLOAD_PUBLIC', 'pub/');
 define('DIR_FS_CATALOG', '/web/htdocs/www.100asa.it/home/');
 define('DIR_FS_DOWNLOAD', DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'download/');
 define('DIR_FS_DOWNLOAD_PUBLIC', DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'pub/');

// define our database connection
 
 define('USE_PCONNECT', 'false'); // use persistent connections?
 define('STORE_SESSIONS', 'mysql'); // leave empty '' for default handler or set to 'mysql'
?>

I'm changing session as You said...

try visit my osc test (osc is original) and stop all cookies (www.100asa.it/testosc)

[♥Vger]

The configure.php file you posted is okay, apart from one 'suspect' entry. Which is:

/web/htdocs/www.100asa.it/home/

 

What's the 'home' for on the end of this line? Your website is installed in the root directory. But maybe it's just the way your server works.

 

I would get rid of this code, as most people have browsers which block pop-ups it's a waste of time having it, and the cookie commands may be what is causing problems if people have cookies blocked on their computer.

 

<script language="javascript">

// BOF: Session PopUp Script

// First define variables:

// "status" turns the popups function "on" or "off"

var status="off"

// "poponce" makes popup load only ONCE if "true" or every time if "false"

var poponce="true"

// "popurl" defines the popup page to show

var popurl="popup_promo.php"

 

 

 

function openpopup(){

winpops=window.open(popurl,"popup","width=200,height=200,screenX=150,screenY=150,top=150,left=150")

}

 

function get_cookie(Name) {

//this function is used only if variable "poponce" above is set to "true"

var search = Name + "="

var returnvalue = "";

if (document.cookie.length > 0) {

offset = document.cookie.indexOf(search)

if (offset != -1) { // if cookie exists

offset += search.length

// set index of beginning of value

end = document.cookie.indexOf(";", offset);

// set index of end of cookie value

if (end == -1)

end = document.cookie.length;

returnvalue=unescape(document.cookie.substring(offset, end))

}

}

return returnvalue;

}

 

function loadpopup(){

if (status=="on") { // if popups turned on

if (get_cookie('alreadypopped')==''){ // and cookie not set

openpopup() // then show popup

if (poponce=="true") { // if popup once only required

document.cookie="alreadypopped=yes" // then set a cookie

}

}

// cookie is already set; so do nothing

}

}

 

loadpopup()

// EOF: Session PopUp

</script>

 

Vger

[100asa]

I've understand the problem:

last night I've tried to install this contribution:

http://www.oscommerce.com/community/contributions,952/

but the error is:

[/code]find the lines

 

if (isset($sid)) {

$link .= $separator . $sid;

}

and change to

 

if (isset($sid) && ( !$kill_sid ) ) {

$link .= $separator . $sid;

}

in the original version os osc (and last night mine too) is:

if (isset($_sid)) {

$link .= $separator . $_sid;

}

 

When I'm deleted this contribution I've forget the underscore!!!

Oh, God, the underscore!!!

Thank you everybody for support!

 

:D :D :D :D

[♥Vger]

Agh! If only you had told us that you had tried to install the SID Killer contribution!

 

Vger

[100asa]

Excuse me! :blush:

This contribution is bug?

 

ps: in who's online I see often googlebot with sessionID (I've prevent spider session true).

[♥Vger]

Excuse me! 

This contribution is bug?

I tried to make it work, but in the words of the person who wrote it "It doesn't work."

 

re., googlebot - look in your includes/spiders.txt file to see if googlebot and frooglebot are listed.

 

Vger

[100asa]

I update spiders.txt from this contribution:

http://www.oscommerce.com/community/contributions,2455

I've found:

ooglebot

It's right?

[100asa]

Into who's online section I've many Googlebot with session id, and prevent spider session is able.

What's the problem?

[♥Vger]

ooglebot

 

There's a 'g' missing there.

 

Take a look at your website's statistics package to see how many entries you have for cookie_usage.php. If googlebot is coming back to spider your website after it has already spidered it with a session id, then it will try to enter with the old session id and get booted off to the cookie_usage.php page because it is no longer allowed to use sessions.

 

This will correct itself in time.

 

Vger

[100asa]

Excuse me, I don't understand it very well.

Where I take look? cookie_usage.php is the page of cookie must enabled to see this website...

Please, more clear!

the author of contribution said "ooglebot" for googlebot and frooglebot

[♥Vger]

Edit the file to include both googlebot and frooglebot, don't use ooglebot.

 

The cookie_usage page is where googlebot ends up if it comes to your website using a link with a session id in it, when it is not allowed to use session ids. This will correct itself in time.

 

Vger

[100asa]

Into session configuration I've force cookie use false, so Google don't go to cookie_usage page much time ago.

I've change into spiders.txt googlebot, but I continue to see google with session ID.

I think I've some problem into spider (or osc) configuration.

ps: I've solve the problem to enter with all cookies disable, but I see Google or Yahoo stop to logoff page to 1:22:38 (is it normal?)

[100asa]

Instead of name of bots, it's possible insert an IP address to stop creation session ID into spider.txt?