thanks. the problem is i am running off a sts_template file. We have categories which are men, women, youth and accessories. Each category has products, but every single page defaults to the .TITLE. Any time i try to add a different script for the title it still goes to the main TITLE. I tried what you said but still no luck. There are no manufacturers so i dont need that to show, just the product name when it is selected. hope this makes sense and thanks for the help in advance! D